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uhhh, the 30-06 started to be used in -ta da- 1906. It was preceeded by a cartridge called the 30-03. The 30-06, in the bolt action rifle model 1903, saw action throughout WW1. Because of it's superb accuracy, the 1903 rifle was used by Marine snipers all during WW2.
Perhaps you're thinking of the Garand.

Even the Garand was in the second one pretty early. The last campaign that started with the '03 was Guadalcanal, and it ended with all units in the field having Garands. The first Army units that came ashore had them. The Marines received theirs shortly after.

The M1 was type-accepted and issue started in 1937. I believe there were some gas-trap models used in the Philippines when they were first overrun, though they were not in widespread use.

Some people forget WWII started much earlier than December 7th, 1941.

The war in the far east between Japan and China started in 1931 and Germany invaded Poland in September, 1939, after which Great Britain and France declared war on Germany..

Very nice! How many grains of H4350 got that group for you?

Ed

I have ome of those federal blue box 180grn flat base soft points I pulled with a inertia puller if any of you guys are interested 40-50 of them I would trade for something.

I'm trying to get '06-less again. I spent 26 years without one, knew exactly what I was missing, and was thankful for that. I really truly hated my first one. I bought one in january on a whim for a project I've since canceled so as soon as it gets back from Remington (sent back for the trigger fix) my NIB 700 XCR (first group, kind of yellow-green finish) is gettin' its ass sold.

This thing would be an ok loaner if I needed a loaner but for myself, the only '06 I might be interested in is one of the Kimber 84Ls ... maybe the Ascent version ... but I think I'd be better off with the .280 AI or even .270.

The .366 does not make good all around cartridge. It has been around since before WWI and I suspect even on its continent of origin the old American military 7,62x63 is far more popular chambering. In USA one can get 7,62x63 twenty four hours a day at just about every 24 hour Walmart.

Could be wrong, but I am pretty certain you can't rebore to 9,3x62; you'd need a set-back & recut chamber, also.

Spoke to JES and he said is one of the easiest rebores with no setback

1/2 over by '41? just damn, didn't know our declaration of war on Dec 11, 1941 the war was more than 1/2 over.

I have 2 that sit in the safe. They are both going down the road. Mucho prefer the 308.

Don't have one right now, but I do have a .308, which is about 95% of one.

The Japan/China thing is what precipitated the sanctions that eventually led to Pearl Harbor.

I believe it was referred to officially as a world war in the 1939 invasion of Poland. The European powers also involved their colonies in the fireworks, while the USA held off until Japan brought us into it. Hitler then declared war on the USA almost as an afterthought.

It's an interesting subject unto itself, but a total hijack and I apologize.

Hunters who use the .308 tend to never feel they are 95% equipped and it is rare for them to sell of their rifles and move away from the cartridge. It has too many pluses, starting with a shorter lighter build and then accuracy, competence, versatility, reloading components et al.

The only time I see the .308 giving up anything to the '06 is when bullets over 180 grains are used and velocity is a concern. The extra case capacity helps, then, but until that's real important, the .308 is basically on par with the .30-06 in field perfomance.

I can't argue with that. My 30-06 is the best rifle I've owned for the last 20 + years. I used to load everything to the max but now most of my loads are at 308 velocity and work just as well with less recoil.

I went up and down the scale of loonieism in my early days, now what I use is not so important because I found just about any sane chambering will kill elk.

So I kill elk with a 30-06, mostly loaded with 220 gr RN, but generally if I am hunting more open country, it is loaded with 180 gr C&C bullets of one variation or another. A lot of guys swear by the lighter weights,150's or 165's,but if you look at a good 180 gr C&C bullet driven at about 2600 fps,it will hold together at closer ranges and there is only 2" of difference in the drop at 400 yards with a 200 yd zero, if you compare it to a 165 gr bullet starting off at 2800fps and retained energy is almost identical.

You don't have to worry about finding some ultra tough bullet that will hold together like you do when shooting some high velocity magnum, nor worry about it doing the intended job like when using some sub caliber chambering like a .243.

What is not to like?

I am a huge 30-06 fan who suggests 308 Win more often than not, but have to point out that I've applied this same logic to why, as an 06 lover, I don't need a 300 Win Mag.

If I ever burn out my 06 barrel I'll likely replace it with a 308 Win.

Absolutely.

The .30-06 is a beast with 200 grain bullets. And, until you get to that weight, I'll take either chambering, but the good old '06 starts showing what it can do with the heavier weight bullets.

I have a 30-06 SS bedded in an HSP stock. It is well used. BUT, I own two 308s. My old 788 is a favored hunting partner for most anything on hooves in NA.