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In January Accurate (Western Powders) will be coming out with a new powder called LT-30 that is a bit faster burn rate than the recently introduced LT-32.

The new LT-30 is going to be in the 4198 burn rate with a few claimed advantages over current offerings.

Nice to see more options for shooters, believe this is going to be made in Canada like the LT-32

Yeah, it sounds pretty good. I'm supposed to get a sample pretty soon to play with.

So...what claimed advantages does it have over current offerings besides not having to get on a boat in Australia?

Easy to light single based powder that meters like a ball powder. They also claim half the lot-to-lot variation of the competitors.

Is it true? I don't know. We will have to wait for John's report.

Along with the same temperature-resistance of LT-32.

More and more powder makers are offering temp-resistant brands these days, and yes, that is an advantage even beyond not having to get powders from Australia. More competition in any sort of product is always good.

Right now, I'd settle for some 1680. I've held off handloading for my year-old .17 Hornet because I'm running really short of 1680. Initial results for pullitoutmykazoo loads were good, but I need to verify, and chrono, the things, without powder to re-charge the ammo, there's not much point in fooling with it, OR, my .22 Hornet, for that matter.

Why heck, I've even had to resort to shooting factory ammo so I wouldn't run completely out of the stuff! And in case you guys missed it, THAT stuff ain't growin' on trees, either!

ratsmacker,

One of the surprises in the .17 Hornet is H4198. In my rifle , a 22" barreled CZ, it gets over 3500 with the 20-grain V-Max and accuracy is very close to 1680.

H110, which is fairly easy to get here, will do a good job in the .22 Hornet with standard SP primers. Worth a try, anyway. Better than $60 a box.

Do you think then that LT 30 will be a good fit in the 17 Hornet? May be another option.

Might be. It's one application I'll have to try after getting my hands on a sample.

I DO have some IMR-4198 , it's all I could find locally. I can reduce the H-4198 load a bit and work with it, when time allows.

Unfortunately, I'm in the middle of a move, and I've got to put all my loading gear into storage for maybe a year. (Just got married, and we're rehabilitating her house so's I can get my stuff in there. It's amazing how much loading gear a bachelor can accumulate in 40 years of handloading, and HOW MUCH THAT STUFF WEIGHS ). I married 'late in life', but life's an adventure, so I'm not fussing about that, only the work involved in rehabbing the bride's property, and the year I'll lose doing so.

Luckily, I had a bunch of .22 Hornet already loaded before I found my .17 Hornet, but I did manage to find a box of PRVI Partisan .22 Hornet at a gunshow for $40 or thereabouts. I bought it to tinker with the cases after firing it up. I hear a lot of mixed reviews about it, but the price was right.

I THINK the local funshop still has some old stock WW .22 Hornet ammo priced $29.95, too, which is where I got my initial .22 Hornet brass.
I also finally (after 7 months on backorder) got a case of .17 Hornet ammo from Midway last summer. I'm not bereft of ammo, but I like to keep plenty around in case a prairie dog trip offers itself.

ratsmacker,

The IMR4198 might work even better!

Good luck on the marriage, the house and getting everything set up. The last time we moved was 16 years ago, and while I had plenty of reloading stuff, there wasn't as much as there is now. Because it's part of my business, setting up the new loading room was a priority, but it still took a month!

Mule Deer

What has been your prefered primer in the 17 Hornet?

Look forward to your reviews on playing with the LT 30. Hope the weather allows for some fair test conditions soon after you are able to pick up that powder.

Mule Deer

Would either of these powders be good for loading in a M1 Garand?

I have been using H4895 but getting low not sure what powder is available locally so keeping my options open.

Thanks for all information / knowledge you share with us on the fire.

358win

Mule Deer

Would either of these powder be okay to load in a M1 Garand? I currently use H4895 and need get some more powder. Not sure what is available locally so keeping my options open.
Thanks for all the information / knowledge you share with uson the fire.

358win

LT32 is an awesomely accurate powder in the pair of 223's I have. Velocity out of a 24" tube runs right at 3150 w/52's. Meters excellent, lot to lot variations are almost nil, as in 5-10 FPS for the same charge. Have shot in conditions from 25 degrees to 90 degrees with no drastic swings in performance.
According to Accurate it's only 5 steps slower than 4198.
Have read good things about LT30 in the 30BR, but just like LT32 it's designed for the bench rest calibers. Currently know of the only load data out is for 223, 6PPC, 6BR etc. but do believe HawkI used it in his duece with good results.

Hunterapp,

I started with Remington 7-1/2's and results were so good I kept using them.

But a few months ago I bought a bunch of Tula small-rifle primers, because the price was so good I couldn't pass 'em up. The only I've tried them in so far have been the .17 Fireball and .22 Hornet, and they worked so well I'm betting they'll do fine in the .17 Hornet too.

358Win,

They'd probably work in the Garand, but you should contact Western Powders and ask them.

Another you might want to try is the new IMR4166, which is starting to become available right now, since the burn-rate is similar to 4895, or maybe a hair slower.

Thanks John

I have consider the new IMR 4166 powder

Thanks again

358win

Inquiring minds wish to know

Hay John: Have you seen that powder yet? What cartridges did you intend on playing with?

Delete...wrong thread.

Hunterapp,

I picked up two pounds of LT-30 last week at Western Powders while deer hunting in that part of Montana. Haven't had a chance to try it yet, but will probably do so in the .17 Hornet and .22 Remington, at the very least. I'll have to study the possible applications before coming up with a longer list.

Somehow I can't get excited about any new powder when the old ones are nowhere to be seen. Does anyone remember what an 8 pound jug of anything looks like inside an LGS?

Early loose information gives me a warm fuzzy on the LT30 working well in the 17 fireball with the 20, 25 & 30 grain bullets. Accurate has compared this powder to 4198 and I am suspecting IMR 8208 may be a closer comparison.

Anxious to get the speculation behind us and see where this LT-30 shines.

Actually, the lack of old powders gave me a warm, fuzzy feeling towards IMR 8208 XBR. Yes, I know it's not the original 8208. But, when I couldn't find other powders a couple years ago, I found an 8 lb keg of the new IMR 8208. Gambled, and won. It works great for me. Perhaps there are better powders, but I get good groups, decent velocity, and it seems to burn very clean. And I've plenty of the stuff . So, if the old traditionals aren't available, might want to give the newer powders a try.

FYI, there were 10-20 eight pound jugs of powder at the local Sportsman's Warehouse when I was in there a few days ago. And the other LGS in town have had some too over the last few weeks.

Seeing any 1680? PM me if you have

Mule Deer

Any news or examples on how this LT-30 may fit in the small cal world?

I haven't had time to fool with it yet, but did make up a list of cartridges that should be worth trying, based on 4198 data. Probably won't get to try any, though, until 2015.

Yea I understand life has a way of getting in the way of important projects at times. If you wish, perhaps you may subcontract some of this testing out. Let me know if you are desiring any assistance with this project Well I can try can't I