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Knight UL is 6lbs. CVA Wolf is 6 1/4lbs. Wolf cost $175, and shoots MOA. Knight shoots MOA, but cost how much? Bang for the buck?

Knight kills game dead.

Wolf kills game dead.

And my Pursuit XLT is really accurate too. It shoots as well as my old Knight Wolverine, TC Omega, and H&R Sidekick and is so easy to carry. I call it my "Geezer gun" since I do not enjoy carrying a heavy gun through the woods at my age.

Lame.

Comparing a Knight Ultra Lite to a CVA Wolf is VERY lame......

Yeah, they are not even in the same ball park. Minor league vs pro ball comes to mind. It doesn't mean they wont shoot but how well will it hold up in the long haul?

The Wolf in SS is a good entry level rifle for those that just want to extend the season for the lowest price. If you watch for sales though you can find the Optima V2 in SS for just a little bit more.

The Knight UL is for those that want a rifle that will last a lifetime and proudly made in the USA.

That last sentence says it all IMO......

never had a lick of trouble out of my Wolf. Super nice trigger, light weight and accurate as sin. Easy to clean would be an under estimate.

Thin light weight barrels often heat up fast and start acting like a slinky.

Nobody buys a Knight for a lifetime. They just keep it until a newer model comes out. It's not like you're going to pass it down like a collectors gun.

Of course the Wolf isn't in the same price class as the UL Knight, but it is in the same performance class. That's all that matters to a lot of hunters.

He is obviously someone that thinks excess maintenance is a part of owning a muzzleloader. Turnoff number 1 on the knight is they still have not figured out the priming system. It can never touch a Quick release on a CVA in its wildest dreams. American made great but they have gone out of business multiple times.

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Barhunters right.. Its an inline, no inline will ever be bought and kept for life simply because each year, theres something new and better. Like the car market today, or better.... Projectiles.

Regardless, when I have that once in a lifetime game sitting in my sights, the last thing I want to worry about is a cheap POS gun hoping will hit the mark.....Just sayin.

You worry too much.

Keep telling yourself that. This Knight rifle has been killing $hit since before you were born.

Tonights buck.....

I bought the Knight after checking one out at an LGS. The metalwork is equal to or better than most centerfires; no MIM, no cast. The stock is a nice Kevlar model, not Tupperware, and the lines are simple and classic. If you don't notice the size of the hole in the barrel, it resembles a high-end synthetic-stocked rimfire.

I'm going to pick up an extra breech plug or two, maybe a cap ignition, and then I'll be good to go for life.

If I buy another ML, it'll be a good traditional gun, or a handgun.

What brand are you referring to as a POS?

The current bolt-action Knights seats and extracts the primer just like a little cartridge. Cycling the bolt also cocks the striker. With a properly fitting primer, it seals very well and the breech stays clean. It's a little early to say, but my impression is that the number of shots that can be fired between cleanings, using BH209, will be determined by how much plastic gets left in the bore from the sabots. With full caliber conicals, I think I may be able to shoot as much as I want between cleanings.

The Ultra-Lite weighs 6 lbs bare. Full up, with scope and sling, I think it's still under 7. Everyone that's handled it has commented on how light, handy, and well balanced it is.

The 1-28" .50 has become the .30/06 of MLs. They're available in about any configuration, even traditional. Properly loaded, it'll do anything you need.

Kinda funny how MK85s, Elites and Super DISCs are still highly desirable and sell fast. Old inline CVAs......not so much. Many are probably tomato stakes now. That is a good place for extruded barrels.

Ive got DISC based rifles i bought over 10 years ago. Very few rifles would be an upgrade from an Elite or Super DISC. The Knight UL would be one of those few. Its too bad they dont offer one in a fast twist 45cal

Guns like the CVAs fill a need, as do the really inexpensive guns. Ballisticaly, they're all the same. I tend to buy stuff that I think is nice, interesting, and well made, but other folks just want to hunt. Not much sense in someone like that dropping a grand on something they will only use a few days a year.

I've long liked the idea of a fast .45, but a .50 makes more sense for me as I can shoot .40, .452, and .458s in sabots and also full caliber .50s. The .45s thAt appeal the most to me are the Whitworths and Pedersoli .45 target and Mortimer rifles. The .45 percussion Sharps are also interesting, but not legal here for ML season. Maybe someday...