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Shipping charges are completely outrageous! However the last thing I bought from them about 2 months ago only charged me like $6 so they might have come up with a solution.....I say "might".

My particular issue with the barrel is it was packed with crap, never cleaned on the inside by GM or by Knight. I have an idea, lets send out a filthy $220 barrel???? The second issue is the tight spot at the base of the barrel where it seats. Yea it's only about .001 or .002 tighter but think about it this way, if I load a conical bullet at 5 degrees and it warms to 50 the bullet will most likely fall out of the barrel, let alone come off the charge = not good. When talking to Branch he told me the barrel is not repairable, Knight should refund or replace, Knight won't however they are the one that sold it to me.

Knight is playing the blame game over customer service on this, and other orders I've placed during the last 2 years have been a joke. Once we traded 3 times for them to get it right. Now the rifles are good quality, but the CS is like fecal material from a menstruating hog.

Could it be worse, well yea, but it still is an issue....


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I hate a loose spot where the bullet seats. CVA and a TC I had has that problem too. Drives me nuts!

I've owned 3 Accuras (two MR's), 2 Optima's, and two Wolf's. Surprisingly the barrels in the two wolf's were perfectly straight. Go figure.

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Originally Posted by BarHunter
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I was very happy with the service I got when I ordered my rifle, especially considering that I ordered it through the Sportsman's Guide for about $150 under list price. The CS lady tracked my order and made sure I got just what I wanted.

They do, apparently, move folks around a bit during the slow season to save money.

The only gripe I have is that their website is a pain to use.


I'd gripe about their shipping charges too. They wanted to charge me $15 to ship one nipple, and $18 for two nipples. The $15 was bad enough, but does anybody think it cost more to ship two nipples over just one?


Kinda like when you buy a VegeWhatzit on tv and they promise free blades for life; just pay shipping and handling that are more than the VegeWhatzit cost in the first place.


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Barhunters right.. Its an inline, no inline will ever be bought and kept for life simply because each year, theres something new and better. Like the car market today, or better.... Projectiles.


Keep telling yourself that. This Knight rifle has been killing $hit since before you were born.

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dont like break actions? why the heck not? Beats 5" of extra length and weight for something that just holds a bolt that doesnt even move backward.


He is obviously someone that thinks excess maintenance is a part of owning a muzzleloader. Turnoff number 1 on the knight is they still have not figured out the priming system. It can never touch a Quick release on a CVA in its wildest dreams. American made great but they have gone out of business multiple times.


I don't like break actions because they feel like cheap peices of crap to me. If you like them, I'm happy for you. The next time I get ready to decide if I like something or not, I'll make sure I seek y'all's approval first.

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does a break action shotgun seem cheap to you as well? laugh

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does a break action shotgun seem cheap to you as well? laugh


The ones with a single barrel do...mostly. My favorite old Winchester 101 20 gauge though i loved to death. It was actually a Ted Willaims shotgun.

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Originally Posted by bigblock455
does a break action shotgun seem cheap to you as well? laugh


no, not really.

but rifles do. but i appreciate your concern. i've had 3 different encore's and looked at the CVA's. they just don't appeal to me.

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Originally Posted by Overkill45
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does a break action shotgun seem cheap to you as well? laugh


The ones with a single barrel do...mostly. My favorite old Winchester 101 20 gauge though i loved to death. It was actually a Ted Willaims shotgun.


I used to do trap shooting for a living, and used a Perazzi single barrel break open shotgun. There was nothing cheap about that gun in price, or workmanship.

http://www.perazzi.com/site/en/competizione/Trap%20americano%20monocanna

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Originally Posted by BarHunter
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does a break action shotgun seem cheap to you as well? laugh


The ones with a single barrel do...mostly. My favorite old Winchester 101 20 gauge though i loved to death. It was actually a Ted Willaims shotgun.


I used to do trap shooting for a living, and used a Perazzi single barrel break open shotgun. There was nothing cheap about that gun in price, or workmanship.

http://www.perazzi.com/site/en/competizione/Trap%20americano%20monocanna


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Nothing wrong with break actions at all. It's just that a lot of the break action MLs are really oogly, for no reason other than their designers have bad taste. Encores are oogly largely because the action was designed to function as a pistol. They could come up with an adapter similar to the EABCO system (still ugly but permits the use of a decent looking stock), but probably won't because oogly or not, they sell.

Take a look at the Luxus rifles or the Blasers. Wonderful break actions and not only not oogly, but some of the best looking rifles to be found.


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I'll stick with my KP1.


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I hope they get off their butts and get the KPX in production. Nothing turns off potential customers like vaporware.


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