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http://freedomoutpost.com/2014/11/agents-allege-border-patrol-stripping-rifles/

It's been previously reported that the Obama administration has tied the hands of the Border Patrol when it comes to doing their job in repelling an invasion by illegal aliens and, in fact, endangering the lives of Border Patrol agents by teaching them to throw rocks, run and hide instead of using their weapons. Now Border Patrol agents allege they are being stripped of their rifles and in some cases, forced to share rifles with other agents.

KVOA reports:

We learned that U.S. Customs and Border Protection's Offices of Border Patrol and Training and Development are inspecting the quality of agents' M4 carbines throughout Border Patrol sectors nationwide. But agents tell us, some of those M4s have not been replaced. And, we've learned, agents are required to share rifles amongst each other.

"There's a lot of agents that are pretty upset over it," said Art del Cueto, president of the Border Patrol's Tucson Sector union. "We know it's a dangerous job. We know what we signed on for but we want to have as much of the equipment as we need to perform the job."

The M4 carbine is used by the U.S. military and by Border Patrol agents. It's even used by the Border Patrol's tactical unit, BORTAC. Agent Brian Terry was carrying the M4 when he was shot and killed in December 2010.

Del Cueto tells us that because some of those M4s have not been replaced, agents are pooling their weapons, which makes it difficult to personalize the settings on a rifle, such as the sights.

"The problem is they are now pool guns so what happens is instead of having their individual ones they have sighted in they're having to use a pool weapon that you don't know who used it before you," del Cueto said.

KVOA received a statement from Customs and Border Protection last week which read:

"CBP's Offices of Border Patrol and Training and Development are jointly inspecting the serviceability of M4 carbines throughout Border Patrol Sectors nationwide. Some of (the) inspected M4 carbines were deemed unserviceable and removed from inventory to alleviate safety concerns. Inspections will continue to ensure the unserviceable M4 carbines are repaired or replaced for reintroduction into the field. No further information is available at this time."

However, there is no time frame given to repairs or replacement. It should be a given that when you remove arms, there should be an immediate replacement.

So, let's get this straight. Border Patrol agents are being told to run, hide and throw things, but don't necessarily try and use their rifles against lawbreakers and criminals in the Mexican drug cartels who cross the US/Mexico border. We also know that though Homeland Security has purchased millions of rounds of ammunition, they have also told Border Patrol that they have an ammunition shortage. Additionally, Border Patrol agents have informed the American people that politicians are aiding the cartels in America and we've heard from at least one high ranking cartel operative has gone on record to say that the Obama administration's Operation Fast and Furious was all about putting guns in the hands of criminal cartels in Mexico, which resulted in the deaths of at least two federal agents, hundreds of Mexican citizens, including a Mexican beauty queen, and an assassination attempt on a police chief.

Meanwhile, an orchestrated invasion of illegal aliens coming across our southern border is being allowed and instead of the federal government doing its job, they have had Border Patrol changing diapers and providing food and shelter to the invaders.

Article IV, Section 4 of the US Constitution reads:

The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion� [emphasis added]

Who is to authorize such protection? According to Article 1, Section 8, Clause 15, Congress is to provide for calling on the militia to "repel invasions."

How is it that rifles are being taken from Border Patrol agents and not being immediately replaced? How is it they don't have the tools to do their jobs, but we can send billions to the enemies of America? Could it be that we are allowing spending on unconstitutional and wasteful things? Could it also be that this administration is engaging in Asymmetrical warfare against the American people with such measures? I believe it to be both.

These men have a job to do and they are being kept from their duty by this administration. Publius Huldah has pointed out how we must fix the situation. "When the federal government refuses to obey the Constitution, the States must enforce it. And WE the People must throw the faithless ones out of office. THIS is how we restore our constitutional Republic."

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Let them in. Negate the new voting ID laws by providing amnesty. Then the government win/win's by us getting all the downside of more [bleep] ID without us getting any upside by disallowing the illegal vote. All the illegals will be legal and who will they vote for? Open the border fully up right now and let em in to vote in 2016?

There is actually some debate in Congress on whether or not to stop Hussein's illegal executive order from taking place? We are cutting our own throats here people and grinning at ourselves in the mirror as we do it.

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They are taking their guns, and teaching them to hide, and throw rocks? Sounds like they do NOT want our guys to win. Duh....In any case, this is criminal. As far as the ammo shortage goes, I guess they could borrow some from the IRS. Maybe the Post Office....Surely this will come to light in national media somewhere! Obama is getting really blatant here.

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This is not really a new issue. I know just a tad about it. But from what I understand, it's a logistics problem. Not that they don't want them to have them.

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Originally Posted by pira114
This is not really a new issue. I know just a tad about it. But from what I understand, it's a logistics problem. Not that they don't want them to have them.
Logistics? Wtf? My taxes haven't went down, have yours? Wth man? You actually believe that [bleep]? I mean, every [bleep] pogue popo in the country can get [bleep] APC's! You think a few AR's is a problem to a government that can afford to keep two or three wars going, feed all these welfare scum, and send Reservists and Guardsmen over to [bleep] Africa to "fight Ebola"? bwaaahahahha

Seriously dude, no offense, but that is simply not believable.

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It took me less than five minutes, probably about a minute or less, to back up what I'm saying.

Check it...

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/08/15/us/surplus-military-equipment-map.html?_r=0

Just put your cursor on the county you want to see. You truly think that a country that can afford to give AR's away wholesale, can't afford to equip the [bleep] BP?

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Put your cursor on Craig Co., Oklahoma for instance. It's straight south of where I live and has a population of about 15,000. They got 28 assault rifles. I very seldom hear about any crime down there and they're in the local news. That's just one county in a low population state.

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You don't know what the term logistics means do you?

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Originally Posted by pira114
You don't know what the term logistics means do you?
I'm aware of what it means and perhaps I ranted a bit at you there. If the government can get guns to some rural police in Oklahoma, they can get them to the border as well. In this case, there is no difference in obtaining the guns and delivering them. IMO...

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It's not really obtaining new weapons that's the issue (though maybe it should be). It's problems with current inventory. Improper maintenance and outdated philosophies on lubrication and parts replacement.

I can only guess that it's causing many in the grown up cadre to question the platform. Or the wisdom of spending money on fixing vs replacing.

Yes, if they really wanted to, they could probably have all the rifles they need fairly quickly. But it's rarely that simple

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They needed a few more to send to the Mexicans.

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You say,...

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It's problems with current inventory. Improper maintenance and outdated philosophies on lubrication and parts replacement.


I ask,...

just WHERE exactly are you getting THAT information ?

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