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http://www.opticsplanet.com/steiner-1-4x24mm-p4xi-30mm-tactical-riflescope.html

10.3"---17.3oz

The rep said that they're shipping now.

There are 15% off coupons for Optics Planet floating around the interwebs, which brings the price down to $500ish.

Any idea what the dot subtension is?

I have the SWFA and think it is an awesome scope. It replaced my Leupold AR and Vortex PST. Even better when you buy them at Christmas time.

.76" at 100 yards.

Nice!

This is a 1-5 Leupold that gets used for hogs and deer a lot. Wouldn't change it a bit. The illuminated reticle makes it perfect in low light, especially on dark colored hogs.

The new Trijicon Accupower scopes look good. Reticles look like they have improved over the accupoint's.

Blue, this may be a dumb question but why do you think it's worth double what the SWFA 1-4 classic costs?

Just by reading his review, I'd say clear and crisp with an aimpoint bright dot and a great eye box would be my guess.

I've never even held a SWFA 1-4, so I don't know if it's worth double what they cost or not. I was underwhelmed with the SS 1-6....are the SS and SWFA the same?

I need FOV, eyebox, clarity, a useable reticle, decent weight and if it has a dot I want it to be bright. I evaluate an optic in that order, but they're all equally important to me. The Steiner impressed me in every category. Then the guy told me it was $500 and I thought, "Wow, I'd spend $500 on this. That's a good deal."

And that's the entirety of the thought I put into it.

granted the SWFA reticle is "OK" not the greatest, however I value durability and consistency as well, this is where the little SWFA seems best. Yet thanks for the heads up on the Steiner, maybe I will buy one of these at Thanksgiving instead of another swfa.

I have a Schmidt & Bender, which is likely the better, if not best, in this class. But, if night hunting, something simple, rugged, and much cheaper, like a LEU 6x42, works very well. Even a 4x33, combined with a good reticle is rather bright.

If spending big bucks, likely NV/Thermal would be the way to go

I haven't seen mentioned the Vortex Crossfire II 1-4x. I had to call a halt at the amount of money I was pouring into my recent (first) AR build but still wanted a decent scope that wouldn't break the bank. I ruled out the real bottom of the line el-cheapo scopes, lusted after the high end wünderscopes, but opted for the Vortex (illuminated reticle) with a solid cantilevered mount. I honestly couldn't be happier. For a skinch over $300 all-up I feel it represents a fair value for the money.

for a black Friday $299 dollar device, I drop tested the SWFA 3 times onto the ground scope first in an 8 pound rifle held in an LT-104 and then shot it into the black at 100. The optics and eye box do indeed leave a lot to be desired on the swfa 1-4 but the mechanics are really very good. I chased glass for about 10 years but gave up on this. Wish a decent thermal was not $5,000.00, I am stuck at "wicked light" prices.

Have any of you tried the Bushnell AR 1-4?

I have one still in the package collecting dust that I thought about putting on a new build in an Aero mount.

I will keep my eye on the Steiner. The reticle appears to be decent.

You mean the one that was going for $200ish? It sucked. I'd get a used Leupold 1-4 for that price.

I like that reticle.