Home Forums Reloading Big Game Rifles What's up with Speer?

ATK has made Speer, Federal's bullet bitch. Make bullets for federal ammo, IF, Cinderella, you do all of your choirs; you can have time to yourself.

Military industrial complex that Like warned us about is a real issue for "brands we loved".

Ike provided one of the most insightful warnings the world has ever seen. Rather than heeding it, we have decided to worship the very thing about which he warned us.

Now they pulled Boattails off their website as a product line. You can still see them listed under individually calibers but the descriptions are gone.

I wonder if now they are going to release the Fusions and discontinue the boat tail.

http://www.speer-bullets.com/products/rifle/default.aspx

With the exception of the 350 & 400 grain bullets I use in a 45-70 & the occasional Grand Slam bullet, I don't use any Speer's.............lots of other bullets to choose from & Speer offers nothing special, IMO.

MM

I use to use their 275 gr.338 bullet, which has been discontinued for some time. I still use the 150 gr. 270 caliber hot cor. My favorite 270 bullet.

I have complained before here about what ATK has done to my once favourite bullet maker so won't do it again. They can be pretty hard to find sometimes but I am happy to have been able get some 250 gr Hot Cor's recently to feed the 35 Whelen and especially the 358 Norma. Really like the 150 and 180 gr Hot Cor bullets for the 303 British too.

I hope not. If so, I better stock up. They are a great bullet at modest speeds, and accurate for cheap. Most people don't know that.

Shot my first deer this week with a 100gr hot cor in the Roberts. Quartering away spike at 120 yds took 2 ribs on entry, jelled inside before exiting a 1/2" hole.

I want to know what's up with Hornady....where's the 100gr IL in 257?

I may be just as happy with Speer actually as I used to be with Hornady.

I've been really happy with the 87 grain .257 Hot Cor bullets. They've all performed very well on everything I've shot with them.

I've got enough of them squirreled away to last me in case Speer decides to stop making them or changes them.

Just picked up 300 of these for my 270 Win. Any loading tips ie proximity to the lands etc?

W H O ..is speer?

They are not a very fussy bullet. Load them to magazine length in front of some H4831, and go kill stuff.

They are still producing 4 of my favorite Speer bullets in 22 caliber and are available in bulk...

50 and 55 TNT, 52 grain HP, and the 55 grain SP...

cheap and more than accurate enough for sage rats at reasonable distances...250 yds or more....

and work well, when either ran hard, or loaded down to 22 Hornet Speeds...

7mm 160g Grand Slams were my bullet of choice for 20+ years. When Speer changed the manufacturing process I went to North Fork bonded bullets instead.

When the Trophy Bonded Tip was introduced I considered it perhaps the best design on the market, given what I wanted in bullet performance. After failing to make them available as promised, I pretty much gave up on Speer altogether.

Now I mostly shoot Hornady SST, A-MAX and V_MAX for fun and a mix of North Fork SS, Nosler AB and Barnes TTSX for more serious work.

Speer who?

I have read that several times myself. I think even on this forum.

What antelope sniper said. I mine oal 3.340.

Pretty much my sentiments exactly. My testing of factory loads confirmed their performance. I'd probably buy a bunch of those Trophy Bonded Tips if they were available.

I picked up a supply of the 30 cal BTSP from Sportsman's Warehouse today. I have a decent stash now, if they do discontinue them. What horrible market practices ATK has forced on Speer. Really put some serious dents in their reputation since they bought them. Speer used to be one of the biggies for component bullets. Now most guys have gone somewhere else, and Speer is not even allowed to sell their best bullets as components. Government can do a number on business in so many ways. Shape up, Speer!

Only Speer bullets I use 50gr TNT always accurate in every rifle I've tried them in.

Oversize bullets are nothing new with Speer. I don't know how many here are old enough to remember,but their .30 caliber bullets used to be designated as .3085" right in the manual. My thought then was it appealed to the reloaders who had war relics in 06 with worn or oversized bores. I do know that some of the best groups I've ever cut have been with Speer Hot Cores. Still have 500 Mag Tips that will one hole in my 7 mag. My daughter's 270 loves the old 130gr Hot Core. The 25/06 is amazing with the old 100gr "stove pipe" hollow point. I wish them no ill will. I want them to drop back to their roots and bring back the old bullets I've used for the last 40 years. trends be damned,there is still room for good old fashioned bullets at my bench.