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I understand the oil is headed for export, and Canadian oil companies get the profits.
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I understand it will also carry the oil from western ND and eastern MT. If that is so, that can't be even a little bit bad. US can't export oil if I remember.
Jobs and the safest method of oil transfer we have can't be all bad.....
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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According to Fox News, 1/3 of the oil Keystone delivers will be exported. The balance will be processed here.
Also, although the pipeline starts in Canada, a large portion of the North Dakota production will be piped south in it.
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From what I have read/heard on the radio, baaken oil can be 10% of total capacity placed into this pipeline. I believe it was something the Governor of MT negotiated with the Keystone folks...
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I understand the oil is headed for export, and Canadian oil companies get the profits. What's wrong with that? But we get some benefits too, like jobs and lower cost of gasoline, diesel and fuel oil. Also pipeline transport of crude is much safer than rail. On a net/net basis, all that rail transport of crude does is unnecessarily take money out of consumer pockets and puts in into the coffers of the railroad companies. I have no objection to the railroads making a profit, but it shouldn't be driven by government fiat, in my opinion
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I understand the oil is headed for export, and Canadian oil companies get the profits. Ha...you understand wrong. It is illegal for oil to be exported from the United States. Refined products...yes. Do you have a problem with things that are made here being sold abroad for profit?
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It pisses off greenies and the CorksuckerIC and creates some wealth.
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HNIC opened up the gates to illegals coming in and staying tonight, but still wants to shut down anything leaving this country?
Sounds par for his course......
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But we get some benefits too, like jobs and lower cost of gasoline, diesel and fuel oil. Also pipeline transport of crude is much safer than rail. On a net/net basis, all that rail transport of crude does is unnecessarily take money out of consumer pockets and puts in into the coffers of the railroad companies. I have no objection to the railroads making a profit, but it shouldn't be driven by government fiat, in my opinion Jobs, yes. The rest not so much.
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I understand the oil is headed for export, and Canadian oil companies get the profits. Ha...you understand wrong. It is illegal for oil to be exported from the United States. Refined products...yes. Do you have a problem with things that are made here being sold abroad for profit? Alaskan oil is exempt, exports to Canada are exempt, and export anywhere else isn't illegal - it just requires a special license.
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I believe it will be transporting oil produced in Canada,a nd that the export restriction would not apply to that oil.
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But we get some benefits too, like jobs and lower cost of gasoline, diesel and fuel oil. Also pipeline transport of crude is much safer than rail. On a net/net basis, all that rail transport of crude does is unnecessarily take money out of consumer pockets and puts in into the coffers of the railroad companies. I have no objection to the railroads making a profit, but it shouldn't be driven by government fiat, in my opinion Jobs, yes. The rest not so much. "The rest" are the main benefits. Jobs are secondary.
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I understand the oil is headed for export, and Canadian oil companies get the profits. Ha...you understand wrong. It is illegal for oil to be exported from the United States. Refined products...yes. Do you have a problem with things that are made here being sold abroad for profit? Alaskan oil is exempt, exports to Canada are exempt, and export anywhere else isn't illegal - it just requires a special license. That must be a expensive license...Exxon/Mobil can't afford it. Why would anybody but us buy crude oil anyway? We have the only government in the world that makes it more expensive to produce domestically than to import.
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I'd like some cites to authorities. Not saying anything posted here is wrong, but it is inconsistent.
I do appreciate the discussion here, since the MSM certainly does not give the full picture.
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How about aiding a good neighbor/ally? Setting up the infrastructure when the SHTF to make more/better use of "our" (Canada and the US) resources.
Imagine if things go to heck and middle eastern exports shut down. If the pipeline is developed and all that tar sands oil comes through and to the US, we will have much more flexibility because we have more ready access to Canadian oil. Versus the opposite. If Canada is forced to ship westward and have a point of export on their western seaboard, our options are much more limited with regard to utilizing our neighbors' oil. Makes good sense to me given that scenario.
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I believe it will be transporting oil produced in Canada,a nd that the export restriction would not apply to that oil. Once it hits the pipeline junction in Cushing Oklahoma, it's all just the same oil.
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been several derailments close to here, only luck so far that it hasnt been any of the oil tankers but they have derailed in other places.....whole lot of the oil produced in the Bakken is leaving by rail, not pipelines....
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I understand the oil is headed for export, and Canadian oil companies get the profits. What's wrong with that? But we get some benefits too, like jobs and lower cost of gasoline, diesel and fuel oil. Also pipeline transport of crude is much safer than rail. On a net/net basis, all that rail transport of crude does is unnecessarily take money out of consumer pockets and puts in into the coffers of the railroad companies. I have no objection to the railroads making a profit, but it shouldn't be driven by government fiat, in my opinion You're dreaming.
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Canada exports oil to other countries and the US imports oil for our use?
If so, that makes as much sense as me driving 75 miles to Houston for a Quarter Pounder after passing the McDonald's 2.5 miles from my house.
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