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Originally Posted by TATELAW
Should I risk higher powder charges until I get to those speeds or find pressure signs?


yes. Every gun is different.

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There is another factor regarding accuracy that I seemed to have missed here and that is how far off the lands are you seating these bullets. I have found it made a lot of difference in my Tika, with each load change I changed the bullet seating .005 and the group would change. I could give a rip how FAST the bullet is going, I just want it to go the same place as the last one.

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But I'll wager a six pack if you had both speed and exceptional accuracy you'd like that even better!



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Another vote here for Retumbo.
I loaded my 115 Berger's with no pressure signs of any sort with Retumbo and am getting near 3100FPS in my Savage 110 that I threw a new 22" savage barrel on. And my loads are not even close to the max load.
My 100 grain NBT I load with H4350 and with R-P brass I got 3340FPS and with Win brass I am only hitting 3290FPS and thats with the magical 52.5 grains of powder I read so much about lol (the 53 grains scared me so I backed off 1/2) Again no signs of any pressure and I've reloaded all my brass atleast 3 times by now.
My 25-06 is content with both of those powders and i'd start with them before any of the others if I decide to switch bullets.

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Settled with Retumbo and 115gr Partitions at 3085fps. Very very accurate.


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Well after some PMs with Kraky111 I loaded up from 54 to 58 grains of RL22 in 1/2 grain increments. 57, 57.5, and 58 were all between 3122 and 3137fps with no pressure signs. Guess I'll load up a few at each charge level and see if I can get some groups.

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I used 61 gr Retumbo and got 3290 from my 26" barrel Ruger #1


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Nosler's numbers have always been high in my experience.

150 ABLR w/ 4831SC
Max load=55.0 @ 2,905 FPS
My load=58.0 @ 2,844 fps

140 NAB w/ RL-19
Max load=55.0 @ 3003 FPS
My load=57.3 @ 2954 FPS

Hornady seems right though,
130 GMX w/ 4831SC
58.1=2,900 FPS
60.1=3,000 FPS

My load= 59.0 @2946 FPS

Who the hell knows....

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Originally Posted by TATELAW
Don't get me wrong, I'm thrilled with the 1/2in group at 52.5gr but I'm just not as thrilled at the fact that I'm burning 25-06 amounts of powder to essentially be hunting with a 257 Roberts, speed-wise.
..............Can't say as I blame ya. You are thrilled with the accuracy but your speeds are slow.

First if it were me, I would try using another brand of 110 gr bullet (if available) with the same charges and powder you have been using. Then see what your chrony says. If you are getting the same range of slow speeds, then imo you have a slower bore.

If that is the case, then try changing over to the other powders previously mentioned and see what kind on velocity increases you get using the same 110 Nosler and other 110 gr bullet choices.

But after all is said and done, accuracy is your main goal. But you do want the speeds to go with it if possible.

It is a fine balancing act.



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4831 @ 48gr with 110 ab's = sub 1/2 moa out of my daughter t3 25-06 @ 100. Should work very well for 150yrds on in.

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Thought I'd update this. I worked on up with the RL22 to 58gr, 5gr over book max. Getting no pressure signs and average 3160fps. Below is my 3 shot 3/4 inch group from today. It prints exactly 1/2 inch higher than the 52.5gr load, so I have a woods load and a bean field load without having to adjust my scope.

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