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Sig.... #9355195 11/21/14
Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 10,786 New Hampshire N NH K9 OP Campfire Outfitter
OP NH K9 Campfire Outfitter N Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 10,786 New Hampshire	Nice to have Sig so close...... [/URL URL=http://s197.photobucket.com/user/offgeorgej/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG0368_zpsde7b8f4f.jpg.html] �Out of every one hundred men, ten shouldn't even be there, eighty are just targets, nine are the real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, for they make the battle. Ah, but the one, one is a warrior, and he will bring the others back.�

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Re: Sig.... NH K9 #9355206 11/21/14
Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 10,786 New Hampshire N NH K9 OP Campfire Outfitter
OP NH K9 Campfire Outfitter N Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 10,786 New Hampshire	I was a firm believer in the .357 Sig before, but every time I get the chance to shoot into/from vehicles it reaffirms that trust. �Out of every one hundred men, ten shouldn't even be there, eighty are just targets, nine are the real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, for they make the battle. Ah, but the one, one is a warrior, and he will bring the others back.�

Re: Sig.... NH K9 #9355236 11/21/14
Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 131,449 USA T The_Real_Hawkeye Campfire Sage
The_Real_Hawkeye Campfire Sage T Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 131,449 USA	Is that what you carry?

Re: Sig.... The_Real_Hawkeye #9355250 11/21/14
Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 10,786 New Hampshire N NH K9 OP Campfire Outfitter
OP NH K9 Campfire Outfitter N Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 10,786 New Hampshire	Yes. I (figuratively) stomped my feet and (literally) bitched when I was advised we were transitioning from the .45. Then I spent some time with it..... I love my .45s, but prefer my 229 for duty use due to the advantages the .357 offers. George �Out of every one hundred men, ten shouldn't even be there, eighty are just targets, nine are the real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, for they make the battle. Ah, but the one, one is a warrior, and he will bring the others back.�

Re: Sig.... NH K9 #9355281 11/21/14
Joined: May 2007 Posts: 14,653 Texas Bluedreaux Campfire Outfitter
Bluedreaux Campfire Outfitter Joined: May 2007 Posts: 14,653 Texas	Does that mannequin have boobs? Originally Posted by SBTCO your flippant remarks which you so adeptly sling

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Re: Sig.... Bluedreaux #9355317 11/21/14
Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 10,786 New Hampshire N NH K9 OP Campfire Outfitter
OP NH K9 Campfire Outfitter N Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 10,786 New Hampshire	Laffin'......just massive pecs. Pretty sure it was a dude. I know he wasn't happy by the end of the exercise. �Out of every one hundred men, ten shouldn't even be there, eighty are just targets, nine are the real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, for they make the battle. Ah, but the one, one is a warrior, and he will bring the others back.�

Re: Sig.... NH K9 #9355340 11/21/14
Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 131,449 USA T The_Real_Hawkeye Campfire Sage
The_Real_Hawkeye Campfire Sage T Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 131,449 USA	I bought a Sig in .357 Sig back in the 1990s, but sold it a couple years later. While I had it, I carried it quite a bit. It was the single stack model. Can't recall the model number. Are there any down sides to the .357 Sig? E.g., excess blast/flash?

Re: Sig.... The_Real_Hawkeye #9355384 11/21/14
Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 10,786 New Hampshire N NH K9 OP Campfire Outfitter
OP NH K9 Campfire Outfitter N Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 10,786 New Hampshire	There's no free lunch...... More recoil than the 9mm/.40, obviously. I've shot the Sig side-by-side with my 1911 (230 gr. Rangers IIRC), a .40 with generic target loads, and my 9mm (Black Talons) on the indoor range with the lights off. Maybe I'm the exception, but my eyes can't tell the difference. George �Out of every one hundred men, ten shouldn't even be there, eighty are just targets, nine are the real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, for they make the battle. Ah, but the one, one is a warrior, and he will bring the others back.�

Re: Sig.... NH K9 #9355706 11/21/14
Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 131,449 USA T The_Real_Hawkeye Campfire Sage
The_Real_Hawkeye Campfire Sage T Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 131,449 USA	Originally Posted by NH K9 There's no free lunch...... More recoil than the 9mm/.40, obviously. I've shot the Sig side-by-side with my 1911 (230 gr. Rangers IIRC), a .40 with generic target loads, and my 9mm (Black Talons) on the indoor range with the lights off. Maybe I'm the exception, but my eyes can't tell the difference. George Interesting. Could be a win win.

Re: Sig.... NH K9 #9355790 11/21/14
Joined: May 2007 Posts: 14,653 Texas Bluedreaux Campfire Outfitter
Bluedreaux Campfire Outfitter Joined: May 2007 Posts: 14,653 Texas	Originally Posted by NH K9 Laffin'......just massive pecs. Pretty sure it was a dude. OK. But since I've stared at them this long already I'm gonna stick with the theory that it's a chick, just cuz. Originally Posted by SBTCO your flippant remarks which you so adeptly sling

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Re: Sig.... Bluedreaux #9355792 11/21/14
Joined: May 2007 Posts: 14,653 Texas Bluedreaux Campfire Outfitter
Bluedreaux Campfire Outfitter Joined: May 2007 Posts: 14,653 Texas	And it looks like a good day. Did you do any shooting out of the car? Originally Posted by SBTCO your flippant remarks which you so adeptly sling

Re: Sig.... Bluedreaux #9355823 11/21/14
Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 10,786 New Hampshire N NH K9 OP Campfire Outfitter
OP NH K9 Campfire Outfitter N Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 10,786 New Hampshire	Into, at and from. It was an eye-opener for some in regards to accessing equipment, shooting positions and what bullets actually so when they hit a windshield, door, etc. The passenger seat was empty, no MDT, etc. so unassing the opposite side wasn't entirely realistic. They opened up the armory at the end of the day and that red car took a beating..22 up through .338 lapua. I don't think I stopped grinning all day. �Out of every one hundred men, ten shouldn't even be there, eighty are just targets, nine are the real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, for they make the battle. Ah, but the one, one is a warrior, and he will bring the others back.�

Re: Sig.... NH K9 #9355838 11/21/14
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky ingwe Campfire Oracle
ingwe Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky	Did you guys try some bonded .223 or .308 through the auto glass? "...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe

Re: Sig.... ingwe #9355850 11/21/14
Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 10,786 New Hampshire N NH K9 OP Campfire Outfitter
OP NH K9 Campfire Outfitter N Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 10,786 New Hampshire	Sadly, no! By the time the rifles came out there wasn't a window left to shoot. Give me some time, I have a newly discovered pit and I believe the target selection is going to be very liberal. Just have to talk to the scrap yard.... �Out of every one hundred men, ten shouldn't even be there, eighty are just targets, nine are the real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, for they make the battle. Ah, but the one, one is a warrior, and he will bring the others back.�

Re: Sig.... NH K9 #9355855 11/21/14
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky ingwe Campfire Oracle
ingwe Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky	What little we have done, the bonded bullets showed a definite edge and kept a straight flight path...the old 168 Gr Sierra BTHP was dismal.... The new nosher 60 grain bonded in the .223 and a Swift A-Frame in the .308... "...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe

Re: Sig.... ingwe #9355895 11/21/14
Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 17,098 G gitem_12 Campfire Ranger
gitem_12 Campfire Ranger G Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 17,098	George, I haven't noticed any more muzzle flash ith the 357 Sig over the 45 My scores went up on average when we switched, but That may be due to the smaller grip on the G-31 over the G21. I'm still getting used to the P226, but my first qual score was 288/300 I'm 295 and up with the Glock. Over all i'm pretty happy with the Sig The government plans these shootings by targeting kids from kindergarten that the government thinks they can control with drugs until the appropriate time--DerbyDude Whatever. Tell the oompa loompa's hey for me. [/quote]. LtPPowell

Re: Sig.... NH K9 #9356008 11/21/14
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 11,481 lawrence county MO L ldholton Campfire Outfitter
ldholton Campfire Outfitter L Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 11,481 lawrence county MO	Originally Posted by NH K9 There's no free lunch...... More recoil than the 9mm/.40, obviously. I've shot the Sig side-by-side with my 1911 (230 gr. Rangers IIRC), a .40 with generic target loads, and my 9mm (Black Talons) on the indoor range with the lights off. Maybe I'm the exception, but my eyes can't tell the difference. George I'd beg to differ IMO the sig "kicks" less than a .40 atleast with 165-180 compard to 120-124 Last edited by ldholton; 11/21/14.

Re: Sig.... ldholton #9356028 11/21/14
Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 10,786 New Hampshire N NH K9 OP Campfire Outfitter
OP NH K9 Campfire Outfitter N Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 10,786 New Hampshire	I'm certainly not going to tell someone else that their perception is wrong.....you feel what you feel. I can only base my opinion on my 229, shooting with both the .357 and .40 barrels. The .357 seems "snappier" (how's that for technical/scientific!) than the .40. Bottom line, for me at least, is that neither is harsh so it's not an issue on the range/street. George �Out of every one hundred men, ten shouldn't even be there, eighty are just targets, nine are the real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, for they make the battle. Ah, but the one, one is a warrior, and he will bring the others back.�

Re: Sig.... NH K9 #9356330 11/22/14
Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 23,453 4ager Campfire Ranger
4ager Campfire Ranger Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 23,453	Originally Posted by NH K9 I'm certainly not going to tell someone else that their perception is wrong..... George Whoa... what a difference a white shirt makes. Originally Posted by Mannlicher America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.

Re: Sig.... 4ager #9356719 11/22/14
Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 10,786 New Hampshire N NH K9 OP Campfire Outfitter
OP NH K9 Campfire Outfitter N Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 10,786 New Hampshire	I'm going to channel 'flave...._GFY. No white shirt in my closet......My shirts and ties might, possibly, be seeing more action. �Out of every one hundred men, ten shouldn't even be there, eighty are just targets, nine are the real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, for they make the battle. Ah, but the one, one is a warrior, and he will bring the others back.�

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