Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire The day Israel attacked America.

Don't like the messenger's evidence?

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Jorge, I respect your tactical training and mindset.

That is the best you have?

WHY did Israel want to attack and eliminate the entire crew of the Liberty, if indeed that was the plan? What was the end game?

Your ignorance is 100% willful.

And the USS Liberty incident only goes to support my statement above.

Now, let's hear your defense of Israel.

Being a Jew and the Judaic religion are two distinct things. A Scotsman can adopt the Judaic religion, but he won't become a Jew anymore than becoming a French cuisine chef makes one a Frenchman. A Jew is a Jew even if he's an atheist, and this according to Jewish authorities.

Two reasons. Firstly, Israel wanted to start war with Egypt via surprise attack. The US informed them that if they initiated the war, the US would stay out of it. Israel agreed that they would never start the war. So, in order to start the war without the US knowing it, they had to blind US intelligence operations in the region to their activities, which meant, in large part, destroy the USS Liberty. Now, as they saw it, there'd be no use in doing so if there were any survivors to report the attack, thus the destruction/murder had to be complete, starting with the jamming of all communications. Secondly, its utter destruction would serve the purpose of enraging the US against Egypt, whom Israel planned to blame for it, thus also serving as a false flag to bring the US enthusiastically in on the side of Israel against Egypt.

TRH, you're wrong. The war was already going on when the Liberty was attacked. At the time, the US and Israel weren't as "friendly" as they are now. France and the UK were still supporting Israel while we were noncommittal. They didn't know who we would give the Liberty's intelligence gathering to. That being said, it was a despicable act that shouldn't have gone severely unpunished.

War was raging, for sure, but the Liberty's destruction (and murder of all crewmen) was part of a continuing operation to interrupt US intelligence in the region for reasons of deceiving the US about their operations against the Arab states, particularly Egypt. Didn't matter that the Israeli initiation of the war occurred three days earlier, since their operations to interfere with US intelligence operations were ongoing, and the attack on the Liberty was a part of it.

I remember this incident, but not any details. I seem to recall it being portayed as an accident.

It might be interesting to watch, but just keep in mind who is presenting the story. I have noticed a decided bias in the commercials for their "news" shows. I can imagine what the actuals programs are like.

Al Jazeera is owned and operated by people who are not our friends, nor friends of the truth. Whatever the facts are about this incident, you can be sure that the reason they are presenting it, and the slant they give it will above all, be designed to weaken our relationship with Israel.

The documentary only restates the information that's been available about the incident for decades to anyone interested in seeking it out via original sources. The reason most aren't familiar with the details is that the MSM and the education establishment, not to mention the US Government, has been dominated by organized Jewry for that long and longer, which is heavily invested in America having a favorable attitude towards Israel and an unfavorable one towards her immediate enemies.

"Accidents" don't last as long as the attack on the Liberty lasted. It was clearly marked as a US Navy vessel and was flying our flag.

Really? haha

thanks SAC, now if we only got TV at our house



cracks me up you still have that poster as your sig line

you might as well have Pelosi and Reid in that pic


they were in charge and we got the unACA, and increased salaries and benefits for the Senate and Congress


I'm not sure we'd be better off with the two gas bags in your pic, but the two gasbags I mentioned really do suck donkey schlong....doncha think?

Imagine, the US Navy being unable to figure out that the Israeli government blew up and sunk without a single survivor, a US Naval vessel, and then put false Egyptian flags over the whole operation.

This plan was doomed to fail from the start.

But yet, they weren't punished. They paid monetary reparations 15 years later, but so what? They still thumb their noses at us whenever they want but want our protection and we give it to them.

I've written my opinions on the subject and on what I think happened extensively. Same goes for my opinion on the existence of Israel and how it came about. That said, TRH's "factual" description of what happened, down to apparently the most minute detail of Israel's reasoning, is insanity, coming from an insane's mind...

I don't have an opinion on the story at this point as I've not done the research. I simply don't trust Al Jazeera to present an honest version, based on who THEY are, anymore than I trust the MSM to tell the truth about the Democrats. It's possible to relate factual information in such a way as to decieve. The MSM does it all the time.

Didn't say it was an accident, just that that's the way they played it. Even in my lifetime, lots of countries have been caught in dirty tricks. Ever hear of the Gulf of Tonkin?

Countries are going to do whatever they think benefits them at the time. Nobody's hands are clean.

I agree with this. So watching the show (or not) with an understanding of probable bias makes sense.

I bolded a sentence which I also agree with. I believe the sentence would also be true if you inserted CNN, Fox, NBC, TBN, TCM, or MSNBC.

Broadcasting is a business. People start, run and operate Networks to make money.

If you find a network you think you can trust, watch out. They are making money off you.

It is a business, not a service. get it?

Sycamore