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When I hear people crow about the 3 position safety being one of the best features of a M70 I KNOW they've read too much Field & Stream.

TWO positions--on or off.

Is there anyone else that wishes Remington would make a three position safety on their 700's that locks the bolt when closed and can still unload the rifle with the safety in a safe position?

No...but I do like the old 2-position safety lever that locked the bolt closed.

Good points about 3 position safeties:

Bolt is locked when safety is fully engaged. This means bolt cannot be inadvertently moved slightly "up"which will case a misfire since action is not now fully cocked.Yes there is some hunting where hunting "hot" is required.If you never have had to hunt "hot" and hunt long enough, eventually, you will.


With a Rem 700 safety not an issue if you constantly roll your thumb over the bolt handle to make sure it is fully "down" and not moved out of position by brush, or rubbing on your coat or the conduct of gremlins,which of course never happens to anyone on here.

Provides a middle position to field strip bolt without special tools, dimes table tops etc,. This is handy when rifle gets cold and wet or frozen or immediate access to inside of bolt will be required for cleaning in the field.

The Rem 700 lets you do this afield.....no?

Also, prudent hand loaders always run loaded ammo through rifle prior to hunts.Firing pin can be removed easily and done safely. Also helpful to hand loaders when the bolt is used as a "feeler gauge"for sized cases with the firing pin removed.

Shroud mounted safety less likely to be inadvertently hit when cycling rifle from shoulder in rapid fire, than a side tang mounted safety.Also less likely to freeze in place from snow and ice during tough conditions. (This may not be an issue from blinds or where weather does not go from freezing rain and snow to below freezing in the span of an hour or two).

If you can't get a 3 position M70 safety from safe to "fire" in the span of a second or two, more familiarity and practice with the rifle is required.If a 3 position were such an impediment to moving a fully engaged safety to "fire", then guys like Harry Manners would not have ended a career as a PH untouched by dangerous game. The notion that we can't do the same in the presence of a little old deer or elk is hard to swallow.

I didn't learn any of this reading F&S . Actually I can't recall that it was ever explained in that or any other magazine.

Knew we would get to the carrying hot BS..

Knew we would get to the carrying hot BS..

Do all you cold chamber advocates carry your shotguns with empty chambers when hunting pheasant/grouse/quail too ?

Some folks just can't figure out how to safely carry and hunt with a hot rifle. For those, there's the M700.

Other folks know how and when to carry hot. For those, there are the M70's, M77's, Montana's, Mausers, et. al.

Don't try to turn a turd into a real hunting rifle.

Sweet Jesus, if you can't disassemble a Remington 700 in the field you shouldn't be trusted with a rifle to begin with.

I've no doubt much stumps you Bob.

Not a one.

Don't hold your breath. After all these years Remington is still trying to figure out how to make a safety that doesn't also double as a trigger occasionally.

I prefer 3 position safeties.

Bob has a point.

I wish Remington would either go with a 3 position or go back to the old bolt locking one.

lol..

Also, I hunted horseback for the first half of my life..Dont recall a single problem with 700's..Seen lots of guys have problems tho. Wonder why?

rhetorical..

To answer the OP,no..I wouldnt give a dam if my rifles didnt even have a safety.

Because handling a shotgun safely is SOOOOOOO much different than a rifle.

Which Bob we talking?

Roy chamber one and then open you bolt. When you get ready to send-it close your bolt. Its takes 198 trick moves to blow your head off while the bolt is open.

Some folks just can't figure out how to safely carry and hunt with a hot rifle. For those, there's the M700.

Other folks know how and when to carry hot. For those, there are the M70's, M77's, Montana's, Mausers, et. al.

Don't try to turn a turd into a real hunting rifle.

I don't care if it has 2 positions or 3. I do want the bolt handle locked down

Don't hold your breath. After all these years Remington is still trying to figure out how to make a safety that doesn't also double as a trigger occasionally.

Want to compare say the last 5 years whites and mule's with a public wager? Grin...

Feel free to Plagiarize me anytime make sure to use my words. Unlike yourself I tend to tell the truth

Never said you hunt in a pen Rick...but doubt you have done much hunting that's "tough" either. Being you're from Oklahoma, I can imagine you have been west a few times.

To refresh your memory,you started this little pissing match by telling everyone that my "words ain't worth a squirt of dog piss" a few months back.....nice way to treat a gawdamned customer.

I guess you didn't like the fact that I'm not in love with a 25/06.

Then you tell me, obliquely,that I don't tell the truth, which is another way of saying I'm a liar. I want you to tell me how, and where on here, I lied? I could not have survived and thrived, as an attorney for 30+ years, if my reputation was that I lie. So I take those accusations pretty seriously.

Once again, please tell me where I lied?

Whilst hunting this morning I thought that I should make a little video of how to disassemble a Remington 700 bolt in the field. All without a dime, table top or shaman.

Of course I've never had the need to disassemble one in the field, but I'll make a video anyways for the Outdoor Life readers that might feel the need to do so betwixt shots at charging brown bears.

I also appreciate the point about hunting with a shotgun with the chamber hot or cold. [bleep] shotguns should have a 3 position safety too.

Only after fumble fingers "gunsmiths" attempt to adjust them and don't take responsibility for their incompetence. Not, all, but the vast, vast majority are improperly adjusted (sear engagement) and it has been proven time and time again that this is the case. Still feel nervous, spring $80 for a Timney and get a better triggers to boot. Two positions safeties.....? If they were remotely as "dangerous" as many of the m70 cheerleaders would want you believe, then the military wouldn't hundreds of thousands of them ins service in conditions, I might add, that are far, far more demanding for reliable weapons, so spare me the anecdotal BS. How many m70's are in the hands of our troops.......rest my case. Oh and I know this is coming in this juvenile thread, so lets address the issue of the self-ejecting bolt handle. Now, last figures I've heard was that Remington has sold more than 5 million M700, probably even more by now. We see the same guys (less than a half dozen) posting the same several pictures of faulty bolt handles. Now if I were to tell anyone here that if they played the lottery tomorrow and they had a 99.99999999 percent chance of winning, would you buy a ticket ?

If a person can lace their boots they are half way there.

Geezus, learn how to spell or at least use spellcheck Menefee. You sound like a retard.

not retarded just a disability. Sorry

Spare me your uneducated opinions Finn. After 5.5 years as a professional gunsmith I have a VERY good grasp of how the Remington trigger mechanism works and what it's design shortcomings are. The problem is caused by one part that no other trigger mechanism utilizes and it is not imaginary, nor does it require improper adjustment to rear it's completely unpredictable, ugly head. But hey, you and the rest of the Remington faithful go right on believing whatever you want. I've been through this debate a time or three before and I know trying to convince you is a complete waste of time.

Yep

Wow. Do you always post $hit 2x in hopes it will take on more meaning?

Any time you would like to profess your vast knowledge of rifles to me, let me know, princess. Just remember that you got laughed outta the building last time

It is a GREAT little read, isn't it?

Any time, Mr "Gunsmith". My last fart exceeded your total rifle I.Q. by at least 5X.....

You are a PISTOLSMITH and I have forgotten more of 700 triggers than you will ever fricking know. And all things rifle related in general. Save it, dumba$$. We HAVE been down this road before. And it has been been well documented that it takes me no time to expose you for the true DUMBFUCK that you are.

Rick Menefee has more knowledge in his pinky finger than you have in your whole body.

Run away and hide now, like you ALWAYS DO. OR, OR, we can debate that in which I will unquestionably expose you for the RETARD that you are. But PLEASE, don't PM me again asking to forgive your perpetual ignorance.........

I prefer 3 position safeties.

Bob has a point.

I wish Remington would either go with a 3 position or go back to the old bolt locking one.

You're too stupid to realize you aren't leading me anywhere and have never proved anything other than you're a huge, gaping dumbazz.

[quote=rickmenefee..... Thanks for the words. Don't get in know pissing match on my behalf.
I had my 3 accidental discharge last Friday in almost 20 years of carry and using a rifle (daily). Had to through that in for dumb [bleep] (Bob). Anyway a safety on a Winchester or 700 sooner or later will get you killed. Its the season most of us are hunting with are loved ones. Be carefull