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Springers, and to a lesser degree Labs, a very popular for all types of detection work.

My other half brought a Cocker X with her when she moved in, and that thing is beyond "driven" and nearer "absolutely mental"; I still can't believe a dog can get *that* excited when you return after being out of the room for 5 minutes lol!

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Awesome thread, Ingwe.

I've never heard the 'stereo sniffing' info before. Makes them all the more unbelievable...

That parts per trillion literally boggles the mind...


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Great post Ingwe. We added dogs to the clan 24 years ago and their scenting abilities always amaze me. Friendliest alarm system there is!


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I agree, Tom, way cool thread.


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Originally Posted by ingwe
They took the dog, who already knew how to search, courtesy of a star student of mine,and taught him the ropes with ivory, horn, and all the accoutrements-weapons, ammo, powder etc used in poaching. They flew him to Zambia with two trainers to train the handlers, and set him up in a super facility, complete with armed guards 24/7 for him and the other dog involved. This is 'our' dog,and his name is "Ruger".... grin

Glad to hear that the dog is being protected with some serious security -- he sounds like he is a real threat to the poachers!

An acquaintance from Kenya told me that a few years ago a detection dog at Kenyatta International Airport at Nairobi was poisoned -- and it was an inside job too.

Evidently somebody wanted to smuggle something by air, and bribed some airport worker so the dog would be dead when the shipment went through. frown

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Good read. Kudos oh Great One!


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Originally Posted by jpb


An acquaintance from Kenya told me that a few years ago a detection dog at Kenyatta International Airport at Nairobi was poisoned -- and it was an inside job too.

Evidently somebody wanted to smuggle something by air, and bribed some airport worker so the dog would be dead when the shipment went through. frown

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John, during a consult ( or two) with the Conservation Dog people I told them to not let the handlers know where and when roadblocks would be established.I hope they listened...

Also told them repeatedly when its time to exercise the dog daily, do it at different times and different places every day....


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This is great stuff Thomas. I do believe that it warrants a trip across the pond so that you may personally determine that your recommendations have been implemented (being the Grand Poobah does have it's benefits, no?).
What, you sold your .375? No worries, just bring along the 7x57 to supply meat for the pot and I would be happy to accompany you with my .375 to provide the necessary security. Never know when an old Dugga boy with heavy bosses might try to do the Poobah harm. Oh, and all liquid refreshments would be on me wink

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Inside the matchbox was a single percussion cap, illegal to possess as muzzle loaders and all they entail are common poachers tools.


Brings back memories. The common firearms where I was in West Africa were crude-looking muzzleloaders, percussion. Two things I regret; not taking a closer look/interest in these things at the time and also not hanging out more at the blacksmith's place in the next village, who IIRC used to repair them among other items. I'm recalling an adobe forge with hand-driven bellows.

Once when staying at a poachers' village out in the sticks they were using Greener 12 bores on Martini Henry Actions, along with relaoded brass shell and round ball ammo. A miner's carbide lantern was worn on the head and most hunting was done at night.

Only saw a break open shogun once, a single-shot, didn't see the brand.

On the topic of dogs, there are a number of accounts of Indians bringing their dogs to war along Lake Champlain in the F&I War and as well as portraits of 18th Century Eastern Woodland Indians accompanied by what appear to be 25-50 pound dogs.

I'd guess it would be very difficult to spring an ambush on someone in the woods who has a trained dog.

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An acquaintance from Kenya told me that a few years ago a detection dog at Kenyatta International Airport at Nairobi was poisoned -- and it was an inside job too.

Evidently somebody wanted to smuggle something by air, and bribed some airport worker so the dog would be dead when the shipment went through. frown

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John, during a consult ( or two) with the Conservation Dog people I told them to not let the handlers know where and when roadblocks would be established.I hope they listened...

Also told them repeatedly when its time to exercise the dog daily, do it at different times and different places every day....

Ingwe,

Great to hear that you are in front of this, and have already given them some very good advice!

I can easily understand that a good detection dog could be such a serious threat that the bad guys would "put a contract out" on the dog.

You can possibly bribe a cop or a dog handler, but your only option is to kill the dog that works hard for them every day. frown

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If you know how things work in Africa, they'll kill the dog AND the handler for the price of a ham sandwich.

There was a dog being used years ago, a border collie detecting poached abalone on the coast of RSA. He got a price on his head pretty quickly and they literally trained a German Shepherd to go with him and the handler and guard the border collie. grin


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Ingwe,

I have not been to Africa, but all of the folks I know who have, say that life is very cheap there. frown

Regarding the abalone-detecting border collie and his body guard: that is mighty cool! Given the pack nature of dogs, I'll bet it was not difficult training either.

In my (admittedly warped) mind, I am picturing a border collie serching a fishing boat as his "posse" stands guard -- waiting for a chance to bite anybody that messes with the little dog! smile

Oh, and thanks for an excellent thread too, Ingwe.

John

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