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WOW. Great vid. That guide has some serious composure.
I was surprised to see that it dropped in its tracks. What was he using, or was it mostly a function of where he shot it?
Pucker for sure.
Quit giving in inch by inch then looking back to lament the mile behind ya and wonder how to preserve those few feet left in front of ya. They'll never stop until they're stopped. That's a fact.
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damn sure wasn't what he was using in that situation. It was shot placement.
Though we can safely assume what he was using probably wasn't all that small.
But that stop is CNS totally and only.
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Looking down on a bear's back it is pretty easy to find centerline and hold for the forehead and accept anything aft in a straight line...
Much harder to shoot them under the chin...
Because they cut away at the shot and pile-up I suspect the bear was not DOA. Which is perfect as the third blinker in the forehead is frowned upon by most taxidermists. I think he hit it in the leading edge of the hump. Spined.
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Looking down on a bear's back it is pretty easy to find centerline and hold for the forehead and accept anything aft in a straight line...
Much harder to shoot them under the chin...
Because they cut away at the shot and pile-up I suspect the bear was not DOA. Which is perfect as the third blinker in the forehead is frowned upon by most taxidermists. I think he hit it in the leading edge of the hump. Spined. tis evident you've never seen me practice my lil Joe Cartwright moves always wondered why Hoss never told lil Joe "yaknow lil buddy that gun will fire while you're standing up, ya don't have to roll on the ground every time you wanna shoot something"
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I hunted with the guide and his brother last month, great guys had a ton of fun. His bear rifle is a 375h&h and they are huge fans of the TSX for all calibers and game. Luke is a heck of a guy and a good guide, he told me to apply for a fall bear tag and hope for snow. Said he loves it when he gets a younger guy who's in shape because he likes to get on a good sized track on snowshoes if the snow is deep enough, and run them down. In his words, " if there's snow and you're in shape, they can't escape". And from what I saw in the short time I stayed with them deer hunting he is a dang good shot with a rifle, though after seeing this video I can understand why guiding bow hunters isn't his favorite pastime.
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Bears are individuals, are as encounters. [...] For brown /grizzlies half the time time they seem to be surprised themselves by their next move... A goodly portion of them might be schizophrenic.
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I bet the bow hunter is grateful the pro hunter stopped playing with the range finder?
If I can hit it with a brick, I would hazard a guess I don't need a range finder.
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Aussie, LOL, that's what I said!! WTF is the rangefinder for???
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Aussie, LOL, that's what I said!! WTF is the rangefinder for??? To blind the bear maybe?
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I bet the bow hunter is grateful the pro hunter stopped playing with the range finder?
If I can hit it with a brick, I would hazard a guess I don't need a range finder. Yes, I noticed this too. It was very close!
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FWIW on the rangefinder, cameras dont' always show what is reality, RE could have been furhter or closer..
but remember a few yards makes a difference in arrow impact..... how many of you can guess it to a yard or two or would prefer a confirmation, especially with dangerous game?
Ain't arguing, just saying.....
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It doesn't really matter when you shoot em in the guts. He should have paid more attention to wind drift and lead on a moving bear than distance at that range.
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No it doesn't but it could make a difference. Hence you need to know all the factors.
If wind drifted that arrow that far, then distance was an issue that needed to be known also, and may have been further than he thought, hence the low hit.
Had he hit him high enough in the guts he could have cut a LARGE artery..... not that he was or should have been aiming high IMHO.
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I know Luke and his brother Josh and they are both good guides with a lifetime of experience dealing with large bears. I am anxious to ask him about the yelling part but my guess is that it was simply an instinctive reaction as that is how we normally deal with close range bears.
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I am anxious to ask him about the yelling part but my guess is that it was simply an instinctive reaction as that is how we normally deal with close range bears. Certainly makes better video that way! (I'm sure that was foremost in his mind in the moment!! )
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Might have been making sure the entourage was paying attention.
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I have talked to a few of them. Only one time it didn't work and these were big black bears. Can't imagine being that close to a bear that big and pizzed off!
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Where'd they get the excavator?
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