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At Thanksgiving, one of the clan asked me what he should get next. He's got two accurate rifles, one a 7 Rem Mag, and the other a .223 Rem.
So we got to bickering over what will fill the gap. Intended targets are coyotes and hopefully wolves, at somewhat beyond 223 distances. Not deer, we bickered about that, too.
Not a seven, as other clan members have 7-08s and 7x57s, just can't have the same thing.
Overall, this is an "off the rack," common-fodder kind of deal,
His two were either a 22-250 or 25-06.
Mine were 257 Roberts, or 6 Rem, with a possible eye toward improving either at some point.
Any other white-bread store-bought ideas?
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Tell him to get a .243 Win and call it good
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243, there's a bullet made in 6mm for just about any application. Common as a old shoe but ammo will probably be available every where ammo is sold.
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250-3000....87 grain speer TNT
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Well I usually dont get into these discussions, but what the hell...
.243 all day long.
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Tell him to get a .243 Win and call it good This.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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Every day on this side of the ground is a win.
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Fast twist 220 Swift, 22-250AI or 22 Cheetah. I have used all three to good effect, fixin to turn my old school 220 Swift custom into a 220 WBY Rocket for grins and to finish burning out the barrel a bit more quickly 
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the consolidation of the states into one vast republic, sure to be aggressive abroad and despotic at home, will be the certain precursor of that ruin which has overwhelmed all those that have preceded. Robert E Lee
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AI'ed, though. Original 6mm Rem stretches its cases pretty quickly, and there is a real world siginificant add in performance with the AI version.
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About 2016 team "R" candidates "We definitely need a crew with a sack of balls the size of hot water bottles, bloviated estrogen leaking feel-gooders need not apply." Gunner 500
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This: Tell him to get a .243 Win and call it good
and what does the Lord require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God? (Micah 6:8) d.v. Musings on TDS
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Overall, this is an "off the rack," common-fodder kind of deal, 243 hands down.
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When all I saw on my place was coyotes, I used my 220. Then the pigs showed up, often at ranges out past 300 yards. Probably I'd have gone to a 243 AI, if I had one, but the next caliber size I had was my 260. I switched to the100 gr Nosler BT and no pig has survived the encounter. And I just stayed with the 260 and that bullet for deer season. That was 3 years ago, and 6 or so deer and a bunch of pigs and coyotes, and all is well.
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Tell him to get a fast twist 6mm of some sort. For an off the rack caliber the .243 is the most logical choice. However, any 6mm needs to be paired with an 8 twist or faster barrel to shoot the 105/107 class bullets. I'm not aware of any factory rifles so twisted.
The 105 class 6mm bullets have a BC that lets them keep chugging at distances no .22 will work at. An 8 twist .243 shooting 105 amax's is an easy 1000 yd varmint rifle.
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Anybody who seriously concerns themselves with the adequacy of a Big 7mm for anything we hunt here short of brown bear, is a dufus. They are mostly making shidt up. Crunch! Nite-nite!
Stolen from an erudite CF member.
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