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My Winchesters say "made in New Haven Connecticut, U.S. of America." And that's the way it's gonna stay around here.
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I will try to buy in the USA in the future if the unions don't screw that up too...
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When (if) the M94/22 returns - whether Portugal or Japan in origin, it will definitely hurt the sales of Henry lever 22s. Quality and/or price are always foremost considerations when people part with their money.
Sometimes, the air you 'let in'matters less than the air you 'let out'.
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Honestly I just picked one up. Made in US, assembled in Portugal. Really nice stock figure/grain, excellent checkering, blueing is fantastic. Not shot it yet cause it's going to become something else but it is a lot nicer than the SC made one I have in 30-06. Yes, I'd rather they were still a USA made firearm. Once I have the .257 Wby barrel there will be no "Portugal" anywhere on the gun because the action says "MADE IN USA" 
It's about like this:
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Are the individual parts all now made in Portugal as well?
New M70s have been hard to get in this country. Dealers and distributors have been citing this Portugal thing as a reason.
Any supply difficulties over there in the US?
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They lost me with the "MOA" trigger... this is just the final nail.
Truth is, I like Portugal a lot, have traveled there, and own a couple Leica products made there... I just have no interest anything marked "Winchester" being made there... like Blackheart, anything I own marked "Winchester" will be from New Haven, Connecticut.
“Perfection is Achieved Not When There Is Nothing More to Add, But When There Is Nothing Left to Take Away” Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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I'd bet they are better guns. I'd also bet that if they were built here they way they "should" be, they'd cost twice as much. Hell, there's probably a $400 Winchester on the horizon.
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My Winchesters say "made in New Haven Connecticut, U.S. of America." And that's the way it's gonna stay around here. Hell yes. Same here..
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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I'd bet they are better guns. I'd also bet that if they were built here they way they "should" be, they'd cost twice as much. Hell, there's probably a $400 Winchester on the horizon. You guessed it..... http://www.winchesterguns.com/products/interactive/firearms/xpr/
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Win-tikka, Rem-tikka, Rug-tikka, Thom-tikka....
Tikka's "suck" yet everyone copies. Now they'll be a page full of threads about the new Win vs Tikka.
Where's the Sav-tikka? Kim-tikka?
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Wow doesn't even look like like a Winchester.
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Damn, Winchester done gone and built a Ruger American. What's next? Kreighoff going to build a Stoeger Uplander?
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Win-tikka, Rem-tikka, Rug-tikka, Thom-tikka....
Tikka's "suck" yet everyone copies. Now they'll be a page full of threads about the new Win vs Tikka.
Where's the Sav-tikka? Kim-tikka? I'll go on record as to admit, I've never said Tikka's suck. They are damn fine accurate rifles, I just like my pre 64's better 
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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They lost me with the "MOA" trigger... this is just the final nail.
Truth is, I like Portugal a lot, have traveled there, and own a couple Leica products made there... I just have no interest anything marked "Winchester" being made there... like Blackheart, anything I own marked "Winchester" will be from New Haven, Connecticut. +1 Bought one a few weeks ago and am going back to the shop to get its companion chambered in another cartridge in the next week or so.
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Win-tikka, Rem-tikka, Rug-tikka, Thom-tikka....
Tikka's "suck" yet everyone copies. Now they'll be a page full of threads about the new Win vs Tikka.
Where's the Sav-tikka? Kim-tikka? I'll go on record as to admit, I've never said Tikka's suck. They are damn fine accurate rifles, I just like my pre 64's better No comparison, a guy looking for either aint going to be satisfied with the other.
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Winchester was an American icon. Sad thing....no matter how good I'll by the old ones thank you...
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Can't blame Winchester, its the American way. Plus, there's very little, if any obsolescence in firearms.
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WOW, that is sinking to a new low.
LOVE God, LOVE your family, LOVE your country, LIKE guns and sports.
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I will say it again avg joe blow isn't going to sink 800-2000 grand in a rifle, like some of you big rollers. They see these it fits their need and checkbook... I go to the rifle range and these type of rifles dominate the scene. I think it's good for the industry myself. But some don't think so..as for winchester again thank the union at the new haven plant for the demise of American made winchesters.. For those of you who easily forget FN asked the union to renegotiate the contract they were losing money on the rifles, but the fine employees said no but we want more money...
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Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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