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Maybe we'll start lifting our pinkies when we sip our tea in the morning too. grin



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Originally Posted by Pete E
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The aluminum cost is basically the cost of electro refining it. As the cost of electricity goes, so goes the cost of aluminum.


That is going to be the issue..producing aluminium requires huge amounts of (expensive) electricity and unless that changes, I think its going to be a sticking point..

I think its more likely that over time, the increasing cost of gas will coerce a higher percentage of Americans into driving smaller, more fuel efficient vehicles, basically following the European trend..


And at the rate that that [bleep] in the White House and his cronies in the EPA are shutting down the coal industry, that power generation is going to be a problem.


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Originally Posted by Pete E
Originally Posted by Dutch
The aluminum cost is basically the cost of electro refining it. As the cost of electricity goes, so goes the cost of aluminum.


That is going to be the issue..producing aluminium requires huge amounts of (expensive) electricity and unless that changes, I think its going to be a sticking point..

I think its more likely that over time, the increasing cost of gas will coerce a higher percentage of Americans into driving smaller, more fuel efficient vehicles, basically following the European trend..


Price check on fuel isle 2: we got stations selling gas at under $2.00 per gallon in Texas. I'm going to enjoy my trucks for a while yet.


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Originally Posted by Dutch

Price check on fuel isle 2: we got stations selling gas at under $2.00 per gallon in Texas. I'm going to enjoy my trucks for a while yet.


Don't get too used to it.

The Saudis are dumping oil on the market to drive the price down and put the screws to some of their competition. Once they've stopped a bunch of drilling and exploration by making it unprofitable then they'll turn the spigots off and drive oil back to $140 a barrel. Then they'll spend the money on Lamborghinis, good scotch, and russian hookers until it's time to do it all over again.

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Aluminum is not a new thing on body panels.

My 06 Ford F150 has an aluminum hood.

Do I recall the alloy front fenders on International trucks that would not hold paint well?


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Most manufacturers use aluminum, or have used it, in their vehicles body parts.


For example, here's a partial list:
Acura

NSX (All), RL (Hood, decklid, fenders and trunk)

Aston Martin

Vanquish (Body panels), DB9 (hood)

BMW

Z8 & 7 series (body panels), 3, 5, 6 Series (hood, doors, body panels), X5, X6 Series (Hood, BODY PANELS)

Buick

LeSabre (Hood), Park Avenue (Hood), Rendezvous (Liftgate)

Cadillac

CTS (hood), Deville (hood), Escalade (liftgate), Seville (hood)

Chevrolet

Suburban (liftgate), Tahoe (liftgate), Venture (hood)

Chrysler

Concorde, LHS, Pacifica (hoods)

Ferrari

360 Modena (body panels)

Ford

Expedition (hood & liftgate), Explorer (hood and fenders), F-150 (hood), Lincoln Navigator (hood & liftgate), Lincoln LS (hood, fender & trunk lid), Ranger (hood), Lincoln Town Car (hood), GT (body panels), Mustang GT (hood)

GM

Yukon, Yukon XL (liftgates)

Honda

S2000 (hood), Insight (body panels)

Infiniti

Q (hood & trunk lid) I (hood & trunk lid)

Jaguar

XJ, S-type (Hood)

Lancer

XJ, S-type (hood), Evolution VIII (roof)

Lexus

SC430 (hood)

Lotus

Elise Sport 190 (body panels)

Mercedes

CL500, SL500 and other models

Mercury

Mountaineer

Nissan

Altima, Maxima (hoods & trunk lids)

Oldsmobile

Aurora (hood & trunk lid), Silhouette (hood)

Opel

Speedster (body panels)

Panoz

Roadster (body panels)

Peugeot

407 (Hood)

Porsche

Cayenne (hood), 911 (hood)

Plymouth

Prowler (hood, doors & trunk lid)

Pontiac

Bonneville, Montana (hoods)

Range Rover / Land Rover

Hoods, doors, side panels

Saab

9-2X (Hood)

Subaru

9-2X (Hood), GT (hood), Legacy (hood, bumpers, sunroof)

Volvo

(Hoods & trunk lids)


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