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Recently a couple of pards and I went elk hunting, and each of us had a cow tag. This is open-country elk hunting, and often a long shot is a necessity. I happened to take along my Kimber 7WSM/SS 3-9x42 w/MD, stoked with the 162AM at 3070fps.

We came across a herd of cows, and had the opportunity to use the 162 on 2 of them. The first cow was shot at a bit steeper quartering angle than we initially thought, at 532 meters. The first bullet entered just in front of the rear ham, penetrated the abdominal cavity, liver, lungs, ribs, and was recovered under the hide by the offside front shoulder. It penetrated roughly 4' of elk. At this point the cow whirled around and started running broadside. The second bullet hit a little further back than intended, penetrating the rear quarter, and exiting the opposite side. The proper amount of lead was used for the third bullet as the cow continued to run broadside, which hit in the ribs right behind the front leg, halfway up the body. The entry hole was 2" across, and the bullet exited the offside ribs, with a 1/2" exit hole. The cow immediately stumbled and went down for good. A grand total of about 1/4 lb of meat was lost from the rear quarters.

The second cow was initially shot at 463 meters with a 208AM fired from a .300WM. The cow was broadside and the wind gusted just a bit as the rifle fired, and the bullet hit her in the liver. It did not exit, and was not recovered. She bedded down out of sight. On the approach to finish her, she became aware of us, and got up to run. At this point a 162 hit her at 765 meters at a steep quartering angle as she was running off. It hit her in the rear quarter, penetrated diagonally, and exited just behind the offside front shoulder. This bullet also penetrated 3.5-4' of elk. She was finished off with a neck shot at 10'.

All in all, I continue to be impressed by just how deep these pills dig, as well as the wound channel that they leave.

Here's a couple of pics of the recovered bullet:
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Jordan,

Thanks for the post! Impressive performance for a target bullet....

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thanks for the report..Havent heard of that much azz shootin in awhile, but its a pretty decent bullet test ha.

They dont dig so deep at closer range IME

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One in the ass is better than two in the grass...

Love those 162s.

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Those are some far shots. Sounds like a great time

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Tanner, congrats. you got over the hump. 10K


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Yeah, congratulations on your elk hunt. Those 162 did a good job.

Enjoy the elk meat.


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Congrats Jordan! Always nice to see real world results.

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Congrats Jordan and thanks for sharing the info. I'll put some chicken bones around my bedpost tonight and say a small chant to keep the nay-sayin schitt storm away!


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Originally Posted by rosco1
thanks for the report..Havent heard of that much azz shootin in awhile, but its a pretty decent bullet test ha.

They dont dig so deep at closer range IME


Never been one to care much what part of the critter happens to be between me and the vitals...but this was a fair stage for the 162 to strut its stuff.

Having smashed bone as close as 40 yards with the same load, I've seen consistent deep-digging performance. What makes you say they don't do so well up close?

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Congrats Jordan and thanks for sharing the info. I'll put some chicken bones around my bedpost tonight and say a small chant to keep the nay-sayin schitt storm away!


Much abliged. I was wondering when that was going to begin... grin

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Originally Posted by Jordan Smith
Originally Posted by rosco1
thanks for the report..Havent heard of that much azz shootin in awhile, but its a pretty decent bullet test ha.

They dont dig so deep at closer range IME


Never been one to care much what part of the critter happens to be between me and the vitals...but this was a fair stage for the 162 to strut its stuff.

Having smashed bone as close as 40 yards with the same load, I've seen consistent deep-digging performance. What makes you say they don't do so well up close?


I really like the bullet, used to use it a bunch.But had a few zook and moved onto others. I have been told that they fugged with the 162 around the time I had issues, and that it is now sorted out?

I will still use them,as I said i think highly of them.

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Originally Posted by Jordan Smith
Originally Posted by rosco1
thanks for the report..Havent heard of that much azz shootin in awhile, but its a pretty decent bullet test ha.

They dont dig so deep at closer range IME


Having smashed bone as close as 40 yards with the same load, I've seen consistent deep-digging performance. What makes you say they don't do so well up close?


I shot a buck this year with a 162 Amax at 18 yards outta the .280.... Impact velocity would have been about 2825fps. That bullets zooked big-time..... entrance wound in the ribs was about 3".... no exit.... no big bones hit. Deer went down in a hurry.... and the insides were soup. But, I was very surprised to see less than 12" penetration.

I've used them before, and I'll use them again..... but this time it definitely didn't act like a bullet that'd go through 4' elk.

Entrance.....
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They probably like rear entry and firm up accordingly....




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Originally Posted by Dogshooter
Originally Posted by Jordan Smith
Originally Posted by rosco1
thanks for the report..Havent heard of that much azz shootin in awhile, but its a pretty decent bullet test ha.

They dont dig so deep at closer range IME


Having smashed bone as close as 40 yards with the same load, I've seen consistent deep-digging performance. What makes you say they don't do so well up close?


I shot a buck this year with a 162 Amax at 18 yards outta the .280.... Impact velocity would have been about 2825fps. That bullets zooked big-time..... entrance wound in the ribs was about 3".... no exit.... no big bones hit. Deer went down in a hurry.... and the insides were soup. But, I was very surprised to see less than 12" penetration.

I've used them before, and I'll use them again..... but this time it definitely didn't act like a bullet that'd go through 4' elk.

Entrance.....
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Sounds like VLD-esque performance on that one. I'm sure IV had a lot to do with the penetration that we saw on these particular elk...

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Originally Posted by rcamuglia
They probably like rear entry and firm up accordingly....




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Originally Posted by Jordan Smith
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Originally Posted by Jordan Smith
Originally Posted by rosco1
thanks for the report..Havent heard of that much azz shootin in awhile, but its a pretty decent bullet test ha.

They dont dig so deep at closer range IME


Having smashed bone as close as 40 yards with the same load, I've seen consistent deep-digging performance. What makes you say they don't do so well up close?


I shot a buck this year with a 162 Amax at 18 yards outta the .280.... Impact velocity would have been about 2825fps. That bullets zooked big-time..... entrance wound in the ribs was about 3".... no exit.... no big bones hit. Deer went down in a hurry.... and the insides were soup. But, I was very surprised to see less than 12" penetration.

I've used them before, and I'll use them again..... but this time it definitely didn't act like a bullet that'd go through 4' elk.

Entrance.....
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Sounds like VLD-esque performance on that one. I'm sure IV had a lot to do with the penetration that we saw on these particular elk...


I have never had a VLD blow up on entrance. Had lots of AMAXs grenade on contact but it was expected and wanted. The 75gr AMAX at 3500fps is awesome coyote medicine if fur is of no interest.

Not a slam on AMAXs but they will without question open quicker than VLDs. That's what a poly tip does, opens on contact.

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Yep, John. That's why I said VLD-esque. I was referring to the similar depth of penetration, although the method of entry was very different....

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I've had mixed results with the 162. This was a close range shot...7WSM
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Same bullet, same gun, but 100ish yards...
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Congrats on the elk. The 7mm 162 grain Amax appears to be better penetrator than the 208 grain Amax .308 bullet.
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The second cow was initially shot at 463 meters with a 208AM fired from a .300WM. The cow was broadside and the wind gusted just a bit as the rifle fired, and the bullet hit her in the liver. It did not exit, and was not recovered.


It is good to know differences exist. It is like the difference between a 120 grain 7mm ballistic tip and the 140 grain ballistic tip. If I recall correctly, Scenarshooter reported something similar between the .308 155 scenar and a heavier scenar bullet in .308. My good friend has had similar success with Hornaday's standard 162 BTHP 7mm.

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One in the ass is better than two in the grass...


Do that mean you would rather wound something than have a clean miss? Just being flippant or would that make you feel better about missing the vitals?

I guess the follow up to that would be this quote from the Outlaw Josey Wales "Buzzards gotta eat, same as worms."

After some of the crap I saw people doing while huntingwhile shooting at antelope this season that saying pizzes me off.


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