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Haha I hear ya on the weight thinng for sure Brad. I will say doing load work ups at 12x was nice for certain compared to the 7x I am used to on a lot of rifles. I may swap things up to a 2-7x33 yet especially once it got my load dialed in. Save the extra 7 oz and make it under 5 pounds 11 oz scoped which will make it even more of a joy to carry and only 3 oz more than my UL 308 Kimber. Which makes me wonder how often the 308 will get the nod when they are sitting next to each other in the safe.

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Well, at the end of the day, the 308 is one hell of a cartridge, and I'll bet you'd never see any real difference between the two on game. Ditto the 7-08.

I used my 7-08 MT this year to knock over a nice 6pt bull elk with a 150 Ballistic Tip, and I really didn't see much difference than anything else I've used on similar sized bulls from the past, up to the 338 WM.

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Brad,

Not to hijack but I'd love to see a pic of that 6x6 if you have one.

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Originally Posted by 4th_point
Brad,

Not to hijack but I'd love to see a pic of that 6x6 if you have one.

Jason


Jason, don't want to clog-up Luke's terrific post, so PM en-route.


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I understand. Back to Luke's rifle...

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Originally Posted by Brad
Well, at the end of the day, the 308 is one hell of a cartridge, and I'll bet you'd never see any real difference between the two on game. Ditto the 7-08.

I used my 7-08 MT this year to knock over a nice 6pt bull elk with a 150 Ballistic Tip, and I really didn't see much difference than anything else I've used on similar sized bulls from the past, up to the 338 WM.

Cartridges are more alike than different laugh


I hear ya Brad growing up all I had was a 308 with crappy corelokts and used it to take 10 or so moose and a dozen caribou with it myself let alone the rest of the family that used it as well. Heck even have taken a couple grizz with it was well. That said I do think the 338-06 is a healthy step up from the 308 as I am increasing case capacity and bore diameter.

I gotta believe going from a 165 grain bullet at 2700 fps out of my 20" barrel 308 to a wider and nearly 30% heavier bullet going the same speed makes it a bit better tool for grizz/brown bear. Can't go wrong with either though. I do like that I am not giving up mag capacity as well. Still 4+1 unlike my 325 wsm which I don't see it getting used much anymore with these two to choose from.

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You only have yourself to please.

And as a young man, with lot's of energy in game-rich country, you have plenty of time to test your theory.

However, my bet is when you're my age you'll be right back where you started... just sayin grin



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I don't doubt hay for a second Brad! Though I will say game densities and access to game is likely much better in the lower 48 than alaska from what I have seen.


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Looks good to me... I would rethink the glass situation but to each his own..

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Luke,
I like what you have done to the rifle.
The 338-06 is a favorite of mine.






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Neat rifle!

Personally I would have gone with SAS�s Lilja contour, which would put some more weight and stiffness out front, even with the shorter barrel.

A few observations on the 338-06:
I�ve had better accuracy necking down 35 Whelen brass, or using 338-06 factory brass, rather than necking up 30-06.

When using 30-06 brass, Winchester brass gave a smidge more capacity than Remington, which helped when using H4350 or RE17.

In a 22.5� barrel on a Ruger action, I see 2900 fps with 185s, 2800 with 200s, 2750 with 210s, 2650 with 225s, and 2500 with 250s.

I�ve settled on 225 Accubonds at 2650 over H4350 as a do-all. Top end load in my rifle, but brass life is quite good. This bullet exhibits a nice combination of traits. Wouldn�t be surprised if you could get 2600 in your barrel, but that�s probably about it. You may or may not see any more velocity out of RE17 with accuracy- personally I haven�t found it to be a magic elixir.

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Very nice rifle! Looks like a really nice set up for hunting.

JES did my 35 Newton as well and did great work..


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So, when are you going to shoot it?

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Already have 50 rounds down it when I sighted it in and did some early load work ups. Recoil is stout sure, but very manageable.

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Beautiful rifle, interesting work! I like it when guys go their own way to try new things. It shows self-knowledge and independent thinking. I'm sure the recoil is well outside my comfort zone, at least for load development, but it looks to be an exceptionally handy rig for a serious hunter after big animals in unforgiving country. I particularly like the accuracy results that you've gotten so far. Slick rig!

Like others, I like the cartridge, and it has a lot going for it, whether you prefer heavies at long range or mediums at moderate range. Were I to do it, and I may one day very soon, I'd go heavier all the way around!

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Originally Posted by HuntnShoot

A message for Big Stick: 29.92" at 5000ft? Which planet is that?


True. In JBM, you check the 'Std Atmosphere at altitude' it will take it to 24.90 for 5,000'

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Hey Alaska...Don't mean ta off topic. But do you now Ken Slauson from the Matinuska Burrough in Wasilla...He is a friend of my X - Wife n one of the good guys...ScottyO.

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BTW that is one sweet Bang Stick...ScottyO.

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Brad, I too had a 338-06, and many either side of it, no doubt some come full circle, as we learn what works w/the least damage to our ears and shoulders. It IS a great round, and agree, as many others.

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As for the initial thoughts on the VX-6. I got it for the FOV at 2X mainly and I can say its VERY wide. So much that I have to turn it up to 2.5X so I can't see the barrel. So far I like it, but we we'll see. It may end up going on a 6.5-06 or something of that nature.

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