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Didn't have time for binos on this fellow, but I was really sure he was a Deer.



This was in the backyard, but I think it was a Deer and if it was a legal Buck then Binos would have meant a lost opportunity.

Oh wait it was running, shouldn't shoot anyway.



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Friend didn't use binos on this fellow either. I'll remind him next time.

If it's a question about legality, I'll use binos every time. 2 eyes trump one.

When the day comes that my life will suddenly end if I miss an opportunity at 3x2, I'll take up golf.

So jwall what did you use to dispatch those deer?

Kinda agree on the first point when distance comes into making the decision. Totally agree on the second.

I understand putting a scope on a deer and following him through the brush, whatever, till a shot presents itself.

I don't live in a place, nor have I, that has point restrictions. If I HAD to decide if something was legal or not, I'll always use binos.

I can PROMISE you that 'here' you would NOT get to shoot more than to shoot.

We all can't be great hunters.

Bangeye - the second buck pictured was shot either in 09 or 10. I used a 300 WM with 180 gr bullet

The buck shot this Dec, I used my Tikka 270 Win.

I also used YOUR/my 6.5x55 this year on a doe. Bang flop! I also killed 1 or 2 last yr. with the Swede.

Man, and I thought this thread would go so smooth....

I meant no criticism. We must learn to adapt to conditions/circumstances.

And if your own eyes made the decision for you?

I had to use binos on this guy due to him being out a bit and lighting.



I didn't on this guy, again due to distance-close-and lighting.



My beef is with those who say one must always use binos first.

Just because we disagree does not mean things are not going smooth. I've gained more from this forum than I've given.

At one time I would have argued .223's were inadequate for Deer. However, I saw enough people use them successfully that I thought it best to shut up and read. Learned I was wrong.

Sure, if they are close enough to use my eyes, that works too. I assumed that was obvious.

I'd rather a peep sighted rifle and first rate binos, then a rifle with 6-18x and no binos. By a goodly margin.

Used a peep last year on a rifle and really enjoyed the challenge that came with eyes that no longer focus on the sights that well. Had more than a little confidence out to 75yards or so. Meant to upgrade the system for this year but never did.

Open to suggestions on a better brand of peeps that may make it easier and I still would be satisfied with 75 and under.

Addition: Personal thoughts are that if one has a rifle that fits like a good shotgun, and one has their mount down, that you could pretty much ignore the rear sight and shoot off the front bead for stuff relatively close.

Right or wrong?

There's more than one way to skin a cat. I've seen simple tasks befuddle some people and others become so stuck in a particular way that their head would explode if they had to do it slightly differently.

I've lived in a LOT of places and the constant has always been the 'That won't work here'. Sometimes are obviously right, but sometimes not.

All I'm saying is there are different ways, just as you are saying.

Don't know what you used nor on what?

I've gathered one mistake often made is to use too small an aperture on a hunting rifle.

Point restrictions on deer are proven NOT to work for quality management. Why do states continue such a stupid attempt at controlling hunters and limiting their opportunities?

Pre 64 Model 70. Lyman rear. Front I think was a Lyman also that I had to buy that was a little higher than the original. The rifle was shooting high with the original and I had it turned all the way down.

Apertures make good sense on a pre-64, brings them down to a nice manageable 9 1/2 pounds...

XS sights are good. I like the biggest hole and their front sight with the white line.

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