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I find the irony quite rich in a guy saying he won't "pay" to hunt whitetails, especially considering the rationale he gives in the OP, yet belongs to two hunting clubs...

I've not paid to hunt whitetails, but probably will. I can kill them on my place every year, but they occur in a lot of very different places. Hunting the same species in a much different type of place is very cool to me. The actual killing of them's not the whole story for me.

Bingo!

Looks like Virginia needs a shot of chlorine in the gene pool.

Couple-few free-range, DIY, public land deer:

In addition to your inability to properly use simple every day words, you seem to suffer from the self aggrandizing delusion that you're the only ethical hunter around, or at least that only those that are of the same mindset as you are ethical. And, of course, immediately resort to the the tactic that all people without the ability to coherently argue their point use...that of calling others "idiots", "stupid", or suggesting they do things illegally or unethically because they disagree with a point you've ham-handedly tried to make. Pathetic to watch you squirm, call names, and call others mad when you're the one acting like a spoiled child.

Not much to add here. Yes, I have paid for guided hunts and will do so again the following year. I really enjoy being able to hunt in others states / Canada and experience different hunts than I have at home especially for the potential of a large buck.

Like others have said - "paying" is a relative term. To some that means a price on the hoof hunt in Texas, to others it means joining a hunting lease, but it could also mean paying a WMA stamp or the permit to hunt National Forest as like others have said - there's nothing free.

I hunt public land sometimes, killed several bucks and a pile of doe off public land but I prefer hunting private land and pay to hunt a large lease yearly.

va. whitetails ,private land.

I just noticed this thread. I dunno, I would be afraid to add up all the money I spent on hunting licenses and tags in my lifetime. There were years in my work schedule and due to the weather that I dropped deer off at the butcher shop too. If you really want to know if you "Pay" for a deer, ask your wife!

How did you get access to that private land? Buy it yourself or pay for a lease/club membership? Either way, many folks would consider that paying to kill a whitetail.

by being friends with land onwers. there are people in this world that just let you hunt .i only belong to one hunt club. i pay 300 per year for 2500 acres jut to extend my season. the county i live in only has 2 weeks of rifle season for deer . the county my club is in has a 7week season. the other hunt club that i hunt on i have never payed to hunt. owner is a friend.

It depends what you consider "paying" to hunt. A license is paying by definition. To be guided to hunt whitetail and paying a guide for his/her service is different and every guide service is different. I sure wouldn't pay to shoot some steroid grown pet at a fenced zoo commonly referred to as a high fence ranch. To go to Alaska or other state and be guided by someone on a hunting trip in the great wide open is completely different and, yes, I would pay to hunt critters on those terms and it would be worth it. It would be nice to hunt without a bunch of other idiots running down your back on ATV's and seeking out those places are worth it. Fortunately I live in an area that has a very large amount of the land that is open to the public but has limited access, i.e. foot travel only. It is CFA land owned by large timber companies and once you get in about a mile or so you don't see anybody. Makes it nice and because of this good fortune I don't need to pay for a guide for that experience.

I find it very dis-heartening that there are so many people in this thread that are willing to pay someone to shoot a whitetail without even thinking about the consequences.

Ignorance is bliss and the check book trumps leg work..... That is what the culture has become and it will eventually lead to the end of hunting....period!

Not coincidental is the fact that none of you who said yes to buying a hunt live where the "great land grab" is taking place.

Are there no whitetails where you guys live......?




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What sort of land do you hunt in your home state?
Public? Private?
Do you or a family member own hunting land? If so, how much?
How many states/provinces have you hunted besides your home state?


I should add that I'm in agreement with much of what you say, I'd just like to hear your circumstances and play devil's advocate.

Have you ever been to a Cardinals game away from Busch Stadium?

I hunt all of the above but mostly public...No one in my family including myself own large tracts of land, but do own a few small pieces that hold deer. I've hunted whitetails in Missouri, Illinois, Iowa, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Texas, and Arkansas..

Yes, I have been to Cardinals games in other stadiums. I see where you're going with it but trying to paint a parallel between the two is ridiculous...

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Enjoy that walk in your circle.

lol this chit is hilarious. hey guys, hes not long arm'n those bucks, the deer down there are just the size of german shepards so a 115" 10 looks hyoooge. or maybe he took some viagra and since hes a huge dick his arm got stiff, i dunno. carry on.

SKane, you miss it by a mile and took something out of context, pretty typical actually. I never payed anyone to hunt any of those states. Not one single dollar of my money went to an outfitter to be used in the monopolization of land and animals.

It's unfortunate that so many people are willing to fund outfitter land grabbing efforts here when they have deer in there own states. We as a group have got to start giving some thought as to what those dollars are being used for. That's all I was trying to say.

I know full well all of the people who have said they would pony up in this thread have huntable whitetails herds at home. Why pay an outfitter to hunt them here? New adventure in a new place? I totally get that! Nobody likes an out of state hunting trip more than me but there are plenty of hunting opportunities all over this country without funding these land grabbing efforts.

You and so many others simply do not have the foresight or just don't give a sh+t because you are not affected by it. Either way, hunters are getting squeezed out in areas like Iowa, Missouri, Illinios, Kansas at an alarming rate.

The next generation and our hunting heritage are suffering simply because more and more dad's are finding less and less places to go. It's happening here, right now, I see it! Hell I feel it!! If your not part of the solution then your probably not from here or your priorities are mixed up..

And for what? So some random dude from some random place that lacks TV sized deer can post hero shots with a big buck on the net, or be the envy of his or her small group of friends. I don't get it!

Last I checked there are about 30 Million whitetails in this country with seasons in about 44 or 45 of the lower 48 states. Most of which has plenty of public access. In fact in areas not yet featured on these g-damned TV shows, there is still private land access for free! Big bucks abound everywhere and the term big buck is all relative to the geographic location and the mindset of the hunter pursuing them...

Fact is, it is simply pure laziness or the ever "important" quest for a giant that motivates so many to break out the check book. Do a little leg work and you can successfully hunt whitetails anywhere in this country......

Continue to give your money to outfitters and we will continue to see both private and public land being closed up to the average hunter. It's only begun here in the Midwest but has been going on out west for along time. It's a fact fellas!

Skane, before you take something out of context and apply it in a way that makes you feel superior in some ignorant internet battle, I would suggest that first you do a little research about where your outfitter spent dollars go..... This issue is way more important than you and I or witty internet banter. A simple google search will get you started...

For anyone interested in preserving our heritage of hunting, start by researching the following organizations and pay special attention to who's political pockets your "well" spent dollars are lining and the agenda being sold...

United Outfitters Association

COA - Colorado Outfitters Association

MOGA - Montana Outfitters and Guides Association

WYOGA - Wyoming Outfitters and Guides Association. These guys were instrumental in getting the law passed that requires a guide to hunt wilderness areas there.

New Mexico Council of Outfitters

IOGA - Idaho Outfitters and Guides Association


The AOA (American Outdoors Association). These guys try to pass themselves of as representatives of mostly whitewater, horse, and climbing outfitters but every year a tremendous amount of money they raise goes to line the pockets of lobbyists sympathetic towards their "outfitter welfare" campaign.

These are but a few of the organizations that are trying to privatize hunting and taking control of public land is way high on their to-do list. Do your research, spend your money wisely, and for damn sure know the issues when you step into the voting booth...

As I said before, it is not PETA, the Sierra Club, or the Humane Society that is the #1 enemy of the hunter, it is the hunter himself.....

Your question, as presented, was a big enchilada hanging out there all on its very own, sans context.

What outfitting dollars am I continually spending here in the US to hunt whitetails? I don't recall mentioning that I was. You addressed me specifically, (and mentioned I lack foresight as well) so I'm wondering if I've yet again taken something out of context in typical, spectacular fashion?