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toad not unhappy with my DD's but that split base threw me a curve.. smile

I have two sets on the bench.




The 280 Remington is overbore.

The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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yea, but a sample of one doesn't bug me much. somebody on that thread talked about thinking the concave radius on the base was too small so when the base was tightened to the receiver, it had to spread open a little. kinda my thoughts too, but without knowing for sure it wasn't operator error or a incorrect base (packaged wrong perhaps), I'll carry on knowing they have worked for me for a long time.

the Burris DD bases may be an option for those with nagging doubts from the leupold thread. they look solid, and my M70 .375 AI has a fairly heavy scope in a set of those.



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TPS rings with EGW rail. (EGW cause they have LH rails)


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Originally Posted by toad
yea, but a sample of one doesn't bug me much. somebody on that thread talked about thinking the concave radius on the base was too small so when the base was tightened to the receiver, it had to spread open a little. kinda my thoughts too, but without knowing for sure it wasn't operator error or a incorrect base (packaged wrong perhaps), I'll carry on knowing they have worked for me for a long time.

the Burris DD bases may be an option for those with nagging doubts from the leupold thread. they look solid, and my M70 .375 AI has a fairly heavy scope in a set of those.


I'd like to know which are MIM and which are milled steel.

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Originally Posted by toad
yea, but a sample of one doesn't bug me much.



Me neither. I will just keep an eye on them. cool




The 280 Remington is overbore.

The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Originally Posted by 338rcm
Warne steel ( Weaver style) base with Burris Z rings


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Originally Posted by BobinNH
I don't know anymore but the longer I'm at this stuff the more I am leaning to a cross slot format.


My 375 H&H has the cross slots: steel bases/rings: Leupold PRW:
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Great stuff by all appreciate all.

What I've personally witnessed the most was folks adjustable bases fail, due to stripping typically. Believe it happened to me once as well.

Therefore I like to KISS. Talley LW is simple, but a few have failed it seems. Failure itself is one issue, diagnosing the cause of said failure can reveal if it's solely the result of product failure. Likely some directly and others not so much related.

Wrongside, I have been curious about the NF, but no plans soon due to funds, should I deem an NF worthy of its price tag. I am neutral on that NF but do know the brand has many loyal happy users. That said, many are Tac shooters who have much twisting mileage on glass.

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Warne steel ( Weaver style) base with Burris Z rings for me


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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
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First place in numbers is a tie between Old Ugly Weavers


I can get behind old Weavers especially the 30-40 year old vintage in gloss that have faded to that lovely purple 'patina' extra points for miss-matched screws! grin I think most any all steel Weaver style system can't be a bad way to go the sheer amount of them still truckin along tells us that...

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You guys scare me. I've never once went hunting and worried whether my ring or base set up was going to fail me. I've mainly used David Gentry's ultra light wrap around rings and bases on most of my rifles. I can no longer get them due to David's passing. powdr

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Add me to he list of fans of "old ugly weavers". A good rugged setup, that you can remove and replace without tools and without notable POI change, and very light too.

I also like claw mounts, but they are very expensive. Very handy for instant removal and replacement of scopes though. I also have a couple of rifles with dovetails, and lever-release ringmounts (steel ones, by Lynx), and if they have a stop or something like it to index against they work well too - I've never had them fail.

I am definitely not a fan of Redfield Jr style though, nor do I much like turn-in mounts.

I like mounts that allow a scope to come off easily in poor weather, or for travel (or if I have a bad spill) and go back on again without needing to re-zero. Not everyone may share that preference though, and so their choices may be different.

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Originally Posted by 65BR
Ok folks, put in your pick for the most durable scope mount system for a 700/Custom Clone. What do you consider to be the most failproof on the market?


As for 2 piece bases:

Leupold Mark 4 rings and bases are beefier than any mentioned thus far. PRWs are also very good.

I still have bunches of the fugly old Weavers in use. They work well.

I'll never get why the Burris Zee rings are popular. Only 2 screws in the rings, a noticeable thin spot, and a round cross slot screw. The screw isn't as beefy as others, makes less contact with the base than others, has a GAY slotted head, and I have seen the heads sheer right off when tightened. Plus they require lapping more often than not. No thanks.

Burris 2 piece Picatinny with Burris Xtreme tactical work well also......




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I love the S&K SKulptered bases & rings.

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I don't know how there could be a stronger and more secure mount than the original Weaver base and original "wrapover" ring. They are not the prettiest but for lightweight and secure they are as good as it gets. Also they have a good return to zero if one just alternates tightening the mounting screws.

I recall reading a test of various base/ring combos years ago, perhaps in an early edition of Rifle, the test was conducted using a heavy recoiling rifle and in the end the Weaver combo came out on top.

I can recall having a couple of scope slippage issues but never while using the Weavers.

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I like Weaver two piece bases and Leupold PRW rings.
For my money Weaver bases are light and strong , but dirt cheap like me...

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As for 2 piece bases:

Leupold Mark 4 rings and bases are beefier than any mentioned thus far. PRWs are also very good.

I still have bunches of the fugly old Weavers in use. They work well.

I'll never get why the Burris Zee rings are popular. Only 2 screws in the rings, a noticeable thin spot, and a round cross slot screw. The screw isn't as beefy as others, makes less contact with the base than others, has a GAY slotted head, and I have seen the heads sheer right off when tightened. Plus they require lapping more often than not. No thanks.

Burris 2 piece Picatinny with Burris Xtreme tactical work well also......



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You nailed it on the Burris Zee rings. The "why" of it is because too many guys listen to the doink behind the counter without actually thinking and looking for themselves and whenever you only zero your rifle once per year and fire one or two shots per year to tag-out, not a whole hell of a lot will go wrong or fail. Most guys just don't spend enough time on the range or with the tools of their "trade" in-hand.

So many rifles and so few riflemen.


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How many have you had fail on you?

What are the specs (weight, cartridge, scope) and how many rounds you put through the rifle on which they failed?

I've got a few sets of them and with a little loctite and self-control when torquing down the cross slot screw have had no issue. I don't shoot a ton but more than the stereotypical deal you describe; in each of the two rifles I'm thinking of probably around 1k/yr?

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