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Originally Posted by 250_3000

Ok, so I've learned now, there are companies who load the 38 to higher pressures and it can meet 9mm +P energy. I don't think I'd shoot those near 357 - 38 special loads in the lighter framed LCR 38 special. So I'd either buy the 357 model or the 9mm model. I chose the 9mm model and prefer it over the 357 for a few reasons.

1). 9mm ammo is cheaper and can be shared with several of my 9mm semi-autos.
2). I like the moon clips more than 38 speed loaders. Less bulky, quicker loading for me.
3). With a short nose, lightweight handgun, I believe there is a balance to be struck between power and recoil. With the 9mm, I have found my balance and I can shoot the dickens out of it. I could find that same balance using the 357 LCR, and it would likely be somewhere below standard 357 loads and above standard 38 loads. But the 9mm already does it for me perfectly,

Note: on Buffalo Bores website, for their 38 +P Outdoorsman load, they say, "In the super lightweight alloy revolvers (around 11-12 oz.) the bullet will not jump crimp under recoil provided you do not subject an unfired round to more than 5 or 6 firings."

I'd stick with the stouter 9mm or 357 LCR frames for the heavier loads.

I hand load all my rifle ammo, but not so much for handguns. Thanks for providing some insight to what your hand loads can do. It has got me thinking about getting a mold and casting some bullets too.



You have good points and everyone has different criteria for what is best for them. For my wife I went with a .38+P and Hornady 90g FTX Critical Defense loads because she hates recoil. For myself I would just get the .357 and be done with it, but would probably run lighter loads through it than I do my Blackhawk. My 9mm stays in the console of my car, loaded with 115g XTP or Gold Dot running a chrono�d 1252fps from my Browning BDM. When travelling in my wife�s car I generally have my PPK .380 in the small of my back. Just bought some Barnes XPD ammo for it and if a range trip proves it functions that will likely become my load of choice. Also have some for the 9mm that I need to try.


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Originally Posted by 250_3000

Yes, I have an XS STANDARD DOT sight on my 38 and have ordered one for my 9mm also. I like them a lot.


I tried it on my 22LR but POI changed dramatically. I kept it anyway because I'm sure I'll get another LCR sooner or later.



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Regarding the LCR, I don't know how much they weigh but bought my wife a Pink Lady a couple of years ago and at 12 oz. it's a handful with standard .38 Specials loaded with 158 gr. SWC'S. I wound up casting some 150 gr. SWCHP's and loading them to around 800 fps or a bit more. Still quite a handful but we finally realized that a death grip with the last two fingers makes the little monster much more controllable.


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13.2 ounces for the .38 +P (aluminum frame), a little over 17 ounces for the 9mm Luger and .357 Mag (both steel frame).



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The 9mm also has the heavier cylinder like the 357. No doubt to hold up to 35K psi standard pressure.


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I have found this a very compelling discussion. KYHillChick and I have decided to get our CCW's over this winter, and I'm looking for a suitable firearm for me for summer.

I'd like the opinions of y'all on the 357 Mag LCR. I'm a reloader and I'm becoming a caster. Is there any practical reason for picking a 357 MAG. Also, what about the LCRX in 38 Spec?



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It would be interesting to see what the chrono'd velocity gain is from the .357Mag is over the .38 Spl +P, if any. Maybe just more powder burned outside the barrel? (And more flash along with it?)

Less leading with the cast at 38 velocities?

LCRX doesn't fit in a pocket as well?


Just things I would consider and questions for which I would try to find answers for.


Bought the .38 Spl +P for my wife. Since I already loqd for the .357 I would consider one for myself.


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I realy like my LCR 9MM, and also like the moon clips, i have no trouble drawing it but did have with the solo i had, out of a pants pocket, seem to just shoot the LCR better also! mines a keeper.


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Originally Posted by shaman
I have found this a very compelling discussion. KYHillChick and I have decided to get our CCW's over this winter, and I'm looking for a suitable firearm for me for summer.

I'd like the opinions of y'all on the 357 Mag LCR. I'm a reloader and I'm becoming a caster. Is there any practical reason for picking a 357 MAG. Also, what about the LCRX in 38 Spec?



I have an LCR in .38 and have shot the .357. The .357 is a tad sharper in recoil but about the same accuracy. I don't think it would be fun to be shot with either.
I keep 125 gr brass jacket HP in my LCR.


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I wish I could find an LCR 9mm locally to look at. Seems like a great primary deep cover pistol or a back-up to a 9mm auto.

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Saw one today at Cabelas in Thornton. (Denver)


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Can't like moon clips. One more thing to lose, [bleep] with etc.


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Originally Posted by shaman

I'd like the opinions of y'all on the 357 Mag LCR. I'm a reloader and I'm becoming a caster. Is there any practical reason for picking a 357 MAG.

The .357 LCR frame is made out of Stainless, the .38 LCR frame is made out of Aluminum.

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Having shot 357 snubbies, I'd say there is no practical reason to get a .357 and absolutely no good reason to have one. They are the most brutally painful handguns to shoot, the recoil is straight back and fast into the web of your hand.

I do own a .357 snubbie but only load 38 special level loads in it. I'd much rather have a lighter built for 38 special in a snubbie.

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Have to agree with Mr. Lott... .357s from a lightweight snub are downright painful.

Since this thread started I ran across a smokin' deal on a LCR 9mm.. Have shot it quite a bit with reloads and standard FMJs. I tried some CorBon 115 and PowR' Ball but just like in my old 940 and 649 conversion the cylinder locked up after one shot due to primer flow...just too hot.

What are you guys carrying for defensive loads?

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Originally Posted by GreatWaputi
I wish I could find an LCR 9mm locally to look at. Seems like a great primary deep cover pistol or a back-up to a 9mm auto.


Try Fred Meyer over in Coos Bay....the local one here in the Rogue Valley carries them....I am looking at one for the wife to carry...

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If I want to go 9mm, I will carry my PM9 but I do have a .38 M85 that I will put in a pocket holster from time to time.

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