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Broadheads kill via hemmorahge....period. In front of the diaphram lies the thoracic cavity, in the thoracic cavity is the highly vascular lungs surrounding the heart vena cava and the esophagus. In cervidae the two lung compartments are divided by the medialstineal membrame so one lung can collapse and the other may function. It was stated it was a complete broadside pass thru....so the projectile went thru both lungs if it indeed went thru the thoracic cavity. If MY broadhead hit that low thru both lungs and the animal did not exanguate (bleed out) where I could follow it. I would get a different broadhead......end of story.
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It didn't hit both lungs or the deer would have been dead and recovered.
The lungs sit higher in the thoracic cavity than the wound.
Duh...
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Interesting. Low enough to miss the vitals, but wouldn't have thought so. It happens, glad to know he's doing fine tho.
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Go back to the muzzys, what I used for years till I learned of the Slick Tricks here on the campfire! Glad the buck recovered, as I said im not a fan of the rage style heads, and in my mind cheap made stuff has a greater chance to fail! I think the bow hunter form would have been a better place for this post!
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I found the O/T a nice breather. Curious as we all have our opinions, and are right until proven otherwise. More than one way to skin a cat. Fred Bear killed hundred"s" of deer with a stamped steel broadhead...when deer were not abundant. I have some and used them until replaceble blades came on the market in the '80s. Funny how my ancestors seemed to do okay, just using a nicely chipped rock on the end of a non-graphite, non-aluminum, wooden stick, without glue-on or heat shrink fletching. Any way you can kill a deer that is legal & humane, is fine with me. "Losing" a wounded deer is tough. Not looking long enough is wrong. Knowing the guy is still out there outracing the coyotes will make you sleep better. Thanks.
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It don't matter what you hit him with.
The best most expensive American made fixed blade broadhead in the world won't kill a big game animal if you don't hit something that is going to bleed him out.
That hit was behind the heart and below the lungs.
Or the deer would be dead.
He ain't dead though, so it didn't hit him in the heart or lungs or he'd be dead.
Wait, I already said that.
The broadhead clearly opened and sliced a clean hole through the deer, same result as any fixed blade would have produced if placed in the same spot.
Another case of paralysis by analysis...
Cracks me up.
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There is a thing called clotting.....Duh. The less sharp something is the more trauma to capillaries veins and arteries, the more prothrombin is secreted by the capillaries. The more prothrombin the more she clots. The thoracic cavity is a negative pressure cavity......as in the organs completely fill the space. Obviously the sharp efficient properly built broadhead missed the lungs hence the thoracic cavity or the broadhead was not up to the task. DUH!
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Is okay... makes up for how the rest of us take you. That's a killing shot right there OP, take note!
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Brisket. He lives. Nice pic. I agree, brisket. Oh wait, I answered my own comment. Granted this is a drawing, but when that front leg is stretched forward the brisket is a fairly large void. The deer may not survive due to infection. Part of the game. Thanks for the OT Tom.
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A brisket shot should show grease on the shaft and a constant stream of blood as there would be no cavity for the wound to bleed into. I apologize it may be an optical illusion as the animal is rotated and I did not see the arrow/bolt hit. If I would shoot one there at 18 yards and not harvest the animal I would analyze my whole deal.Just braying. Good call on the brisket shot! I missed it. I am humbled.
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A brisket shot should show grease on the shaft and a constant stream of blood as there would be no cavity for the wound to bleed into. I apologize it may be an optical illusion as the animal is rotated and I did not see the arrow/bolt hit. If I would shoot one there at 18 yards and not harvest the animal I would analyze my whole deal.Just braying.
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