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Thank you all for the input!

BTW I am hoping to bag an elk next year at a self imposed minimum range of 1,000 yards.


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Originally Posted by deflave
One other thing about subsonics that I have noticed is if you want to hit things the size of beer cans, you gotta have your dope dialed in just about as well as you would your 22LR.

You can kiss that "hold on fur" schit good-bye.

Whatever that's worth.

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Yep. Launched subsonic even a long sleek 220 Matchking is about 4 inches low at 100, when zero'd at 50. I shot a doe with it, and last saw the doe about 200 yards away, running over a hill - on another ranch. I believe I hit her too high. Decent blood trail, but the deer was lost. I believe it would have been a bang flop with a normal deer rifle.

I have heard good things about the Lehigh Defense bullets, and I also finally scored some 240 Matchkings. Carefully placed these might be better.

https://www.lehighdefense.com/shop/...m-expansion-194gr-subsonic-bullet-detail


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Originally Posted by Foxbat



The fact you think a .300blk has a 300 meter range with a 9" bbl is interesting. Most of us here live in the real world, not the faux tacticool world.

A supersonic .300blk round out of a 9" bbl is barely above subsonic at 300 yards. I realize you've probably never killed a large mammal with a subsonic in your life, but advocating a 125g bullet for use at or around subsonic velocity, at that range, is ignorant and foolish.



You'd run headlong into a blinking neon sign, huh....


If I was to bet, I'd bet that a Barnes Blacktip 110gr TTSX does nice things in tissue well past 300m from a 9in barrel, and is also bet that those would upset at 300m from a 6in barrel as well.... May even penetrate barriers at that range.... Give or take.

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Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Thank you all for the input!

BTW I am hoping to bag an elk next year at a self imposed minimum range of 1,000 yards.


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Originally Posted by Formidilosus



If I was to bet, I'd bet that a Barnes Blacktip 110gr TTSX does nice things in tissue well past 300m from a 9in barrel, and is also bet that those would upset at 300m from a 6in barrel as well.... May even penetrate barriers at that range.... Give or take.


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Not so sure about the 110 TTSX. But I have shot deer with a 125gr Ballistic tip, launched at mild speeds (~2200fps) from a Contender, and it expanded well, and killed quickly. That's about how fast they can run out of a Blackout.

For anyone new to the .300 I'd suggest that they load to mag length ~2.24", rather than the 2.08" generally published, as I have found better accuracy in two different AR's, and they functioned fine. That's with plastic tipped or other pointy bullets. If the bullet has a blunt tip then shorter OAL may be needed to assure feeding.


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In my opinion the 300BO just makes more sense out of a short barrel than 5.56 out of a short barrel, it makes about 2100 FPS with a 110 in a 9.5 inch pistol barrel. Making a 9.5 inch Sig brace 300BO pistol loses about 200 FPS IIRC from a 16 inch 300 BO rifle barrel and that right there is a pretty good trade.

Having actually shot a deer with a Sig brace BO pistol/110 barnes I can confirm the deer is reliably dead with a 25 cent sized hole thru both shoulders from 55 yards, please excuse me for stating facts if they differ from anyones suppositions.

I would have no use for the BO cartridge in a 16 inch barrel, nor would I have any use for a 308win or 6.8SPC in a short barrel.

The blacktip 110 grain Barnes Vor-TX is designed to expand down to 1300FPS, that is a fact and its a very good bullet, I would not try to hit anything past 200 with the pistol set up on the other hand the Sig brace pistol is pretty handy in a small ground blind. A suppresor to take the edge off of supersonic loads would interest me for hunting, I am looking into this for next year.

The 110 Vor-TX is a pretty good bullet.

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You pay for the SBR $200 on your lower if you do as I do and have a herd of different caliber uppers you like to run short. I like the way they handle with a suppressor attached. Now, If I had to do it over, I would have bought a titanium can and eliminated about a pound hanging off the end of my barrel.

Ditto on the 110 barnes TAC-TX. I started shooting 300 whispers with a contender single shot pistol and carbine in 2001. The 125 gr Nosler was my super bullet and I killed a pile of deer with it. I started shooting the 110 barnes bullet two years ago. I like it even better.

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