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Just looked at the local CL. Exactly one. Kinda rough...

http://bellingham.craigslist.org/cto/4750566033.html


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Yep, and a rebuilt title, which in my experience means the owner usually has a Russian accent.


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I finally gave up and bought a new one. Now I can focus my CL search for a clean Jeep CJ. smile


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Love the new ones. Getting the wife one once I get kid #1 through college. Lot easier to find a clean used Jeep.

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Originally Posted by 30338
I'm 6'7", I drove both those rigs for a while actually. I didn't notice any issues fitting in them. The 98 with 5 spd would get 23 on the highway at around 75. Working off memory there, but was always surprised how well it did. The full time 4wd 2003 will do 14-15 no matter how you drive or where. Admittedly that is pretty bad, but with that many mile and no repairs, I'm not selling it.

If a guy really worked and was patient, a good one owner 1998 model would be really hard to beat in my opinion. Sure the 97-99 range would be fine actually. I think the 2004/05 V6 models have had a great track record as well. Same body as the 03 and better mileage. Good luck in your search.


That's impressive considering my wifes 99 suburban gets 20 mpg with a vortec 350 and it seats 9. whistle. I just changed the original cap and rotor a couple days ago too.... To the OP, I'd be looking pretty hard at a newer Honda pilot AWD. Very dependable and much better fuel mileage than a V8 anything Toyota. Just sayin.


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Thanks for all the info guys. I got her into a 4runner for a quick drive, bottom line she hated it so its back to the drawing board. bsa1917hunter-funny you should mention the pilot, that's one we have been kicking around along with the Nissan Pathfinder. Of the two I think the pathfinder might be the better 4x unless you guys know something I don't.

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Crossovers are part minivan and part suv. Built so the trendy can have some of the minivan space and mpg, with owning a minivan, plus much needed four wheel drive for when it snows in the suburbs. You loose a lot of the minivans room and some mpg, also lose the suvs off road ability.


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20 mpg average mileage for anything able to haul a whole soccer team is impressive. Congrats.

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Originally Posted by tcb22
. I got her into a 4runner for a quick drive, bottom line she hated it so its back to the drawing board.


why does she hate it?


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Check out the Xterras. Those that own them seem to like them.



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The 4runner was a 2001 nice looking had most of the things I wanted. However she did not like the way it drove said it felt under powered and rode rough like an old truck. She also felt it was too narrow, thought 3 teens in the back seat would be uncomfortable. I looked at the xterras but thought they were too small for our needs.

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If she didn't like the '01, I'd look for a 2003+ 4R with the 4.0 V6. Timing chain and LOTS more power than the 3.4s. 2005s will have a 5spd auto.

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Well the hunt is officially over just picked up a 2005 Nissan Pathfinder with more bells and whistles that I care for. However it makes the little woman happy, and as we all know is money in the bank. thanks for all the info

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Good choice with the Pathfinder. Had a 1998. Put 100,000 miles on it with no problems. Put it places most people wouldn't or couldn't go. New tires twice and brakes once. Got stupid one day and traded it for a Ford Ranger. What a piece of junk. Didn't keep it long and traded it for a Nissan Versa.

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Originally Posted by tcb22
Thanks for all the info guys. I got her into a 4runner for a quick drive, bottom line she hated it so its back to the drawing board. bsa1917hunter-funny you should mention the pilot, that's one we have been kicking around along with the Nissan Pathfinder. Of the two I think the pathfinder might be the better 4x unless you guys know something I don't.


I was looking at each of those this past fall.. was considering a V 8 4Runner...I ended up buying a Honda Pilot... and crawling around underneath it doing some routine maintanance that hasn't probably been done in a while.. I am impressed with how well it is built...

mileage has so far been decent...plenty of power under the hood..

downside, no 4 wheel low lock...but since it is going to be mainly a highway rig, I wasn't too concerned over that...

I'd buy another in a heart beat...


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I looked at the Pilots as well, being a Honda I felt the were well built. Decided against it only because I wanted a more substantial 4X system. Southern Oregon gets its snow, but I think the opposite corner of the state gets more and the kids have season ski passes. So up the mountain I go...

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