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What would you consider the best defense load in a short barrel 45 ACP with 3.0 or 3.3 inch barrel?
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bea175, Here are some loads that chrono'ed out my glock 36, 3.7 inch barrel. I wanted the fastest 230gr load I could get for carry. Speer gold dot short barrel, 761fps, Win SXT 836fps, Fed hydra shok 825fps. Rem golden saber 775fps, Win white box FMJ, 775fps. Hope this helps, Blue.
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A couple of more data points.
RA45T -- 230gr JHP, Win Ranger T (std not +P)
5" Les Baer 958 fps (5 long paces from muzzle at 80 Deg F)
3.5" Kahr CW45 876 fps (5 long paces from muzzle at 65 Deg F)
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bea175, Here are some loads that chrono'ed out my glock 36, 3.7 inch barrel. I wanted the fastest 230gr load I could get for carry. Speer gold dot short barrel, 761fps . . . . Wow, that short barrel Gold Dot ammo doesn�t seem to beat the standard velocity Gold Dots. Using the 230 grain standard velocity Gold Dots, I got 808 mv out of my Glock 30 with the 3.78� barrel and 782 mv out of a Springfield XDs with the 3.3� barrel.
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I went with hydra shok as my carry load since I had the largest supply of them. The win SXT is no slouch either! Thank god we have plenty of choices when it comes to ammo selection and testing!
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None of tha so called "short barreled" ammo is faster than a lot of regular ammo. The chrono doesn't lie it just breaks your heart.
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I guess that the so called short barrel ammo is not always the best thing in all short barrels? You are right, the chrono always speaks the truth, whether we accept it or not is the question.
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I guess that the so called short barrel ammo is not always the best thing in all short barrels? You are right, the chrono always speaks the truth, whether we accept it or not is the question.
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I have several friends who carry Colt Defender .45s and all of them carry CorBon PowR'Ball. From a 3" barrel is unlikely there is going to be any expansion in a real body vs. Jello for any ammo. http://www.corbon.com/corboncart/glaser/pow-rball/pb45165-20I carry PB in my .38 Super...100 grain bullet at 1525 chronographed... Bob
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I carry the Gold Dot 230 +P in my Glock 36 at the moment.
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I pocket carry a second gun -- a CW45 with Buffalo Bore 255 gr hard cast flat nose lead. This is my backup/hand in pocket gun mainly for close encounters. 255gr because always in moose/bear country -- only care about contact range penetration.
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Most of use who carry a pistol daily live in Black Hoodie Country not Bear Country
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The short barrel was not meant to be faster,but it has a suppressant to reduce muzzle flash..try it out!
I carry the Gold Dot in 185 gr in my XDS
Matter of fact I carry Gold Dots in all my SD guns because it's a damn good bullet and the low flash.
from their web-site...
� True, bonded-core bullet velocity-tuned for optimum terminal performance
� Nickel-plated case
� Low-flash propellant
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None of tha so called "short barreled" ammo is faster than a lot of regular ammo. The chrono doesn't lie it just breaks your heart.
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The short barrel was not meant to be faster,but it has a suppressant to reduce muzzle flash..try it out!
I carry the Gold Dot in 185 gr in my XDS
Matter of fact I carry Gold Dots in all my SD guns because it's a damn good bullet and the low flash.
from their web-site...
� True, bonded-core bullet velocity-tuned for optimum terminal performance
� Nickel-plated case
� Low-flash propellant
this ^^^^^^
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I get a fairly consistent 800FPS with the Speer HydraShock 230 grain, out of my 3 inch barrel XDS.
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Yes,but I have found Hydra-shocks don't open as much as a Gold
Dot in the short barrel XDS.Massive tissue damage in the right spot is a fight stopper...
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Yes,but I have found Hydra-shocks don't open as much as a Gold
Dot in the short barrel XDS.Massive tissue damage in the right spot is a fight stopper... If penetration is deep enough, slow velocity and wide expansion mean shallow penetration.
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penetration of 5" at 5 to 10 feet is plenty and most likely distance of a SD shooting.
Gold Dots have very good rap from the street...
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