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I would quickly re-asses my thoughts concerning my standing with the public, especially the criminal types. I would realize that less and less people of all types are losing their respect and fear for me and are becoming less willing to do as I say when I yell at them to "git on the graound" or sit down on the curb or willingly allow me to search their car knowing that I will do my best to wreck the interior. And that wherever I may be, there are several video cameras pointing at me from several angels so if I start punching and beating on someone I will be reported.

A prime example of what is causing a huge drop in respect for cops is the young hot-shot cop in Texas a few days ago the beat on and tased the old black guy because he was resisting arrest. Nobody wants to be arrested, especially when you have done no wrong. The punk wouldn't give the old guy a chance to speak up for himself but if he had, the whole situation could have ended up on a much happier note and jerk cop would still have a job. The way he conducted himself is bad enough but for other cops to hold up for guys that act in that manner is completely ridiculous. That adds more to the "us against them" attitude.

And I would try at all times to be on high alert and never let my guard down. It is very sad that the two that were assassinated in NYC were so quickly and easily taken out of the picture by one demented person.

No, I'm not a cop and never have been. I have some very good friends that are police of some kind that I have a lot of respect for and also know a few that are as sorry an excuse for a lawman as anybody could be.

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I worked as an LEO for 5 years....until I started my aviation business and enjoyed the service but not the politics involved!! IMO today the upper echelon of police agencies doing the vetting....need to be vetted!!


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Originally Posted by Bigbuck215
No, I'm not a cop and never have been.


Wow...who'd a guessed? Thanks for the advice.


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A prime example of what is causing a huge drop in respect for cops is the young hot-shot cop in Texas a few days ago the beat on and tased the old black guy because he was resisting arrest. Nobody wants to be arrested, especially when you have done no wrong. The punk wouldn't give the old guy a chance to speak up for himself but if he had, the whole situation could have ended up on a much happier note and jerk cop would still have a job.


To be more accurate, the old man wasn't black. He was a Meskin.

Cop isn't fired yet. The Texas Rangers are investigating. The outcome of his disposition as LEO is still pending.


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Originally Posted by ltppowell
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No, I'm not a cop and never have been.


Wow...who'd a guessed? Thanks for the advice.


Guess that means you will never offer advice to a civilian then huh?


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Originally Posted by Tarkio
Originally Posted by ltppowell
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No, I'm not a cop and never have been.


Wow...who'd a guessed? Thanks for the advice.


Guess that means you will never offer advice to a civilian then huh?


You have the right to remain silent.

good advice.

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Originally Posted by Tarkio
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No, I'm not a cop and never have been.


Wow...who'd a guessed? Thanks for the advice.


Guess that means you will never offer advice to a civilian then huh?


Only if I know something about their needs. If you need to know something about fishing or cooking...I'm your man. Oh...and about being a cop, of course.


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The end game is not for the citizens to lose respect for the LEO's the end game is for the LEO's to lose all respect for the citizens.

If they can accomplish that anything will fly, gun confiscation included. Once we lose their respect the relationship is broken and the police will become a tool of the state to be used against the public.








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Last time I checked, we get paid by tax payers, and not through the people you guys put in Washington. Respect is a two way street. Some earn it, some don't.


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Originally Posted by ltppowell
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No, I'm not a cop and never have been.


Wow...who'd a guessed? Thanks for the advice.


Lol...those haven't or can't always know a better way....

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I was brought up to have respect for people until they show you they don't deserve it. I don't care if it is a guy behind the counter at McDonald's, a Minister or a Senator. I'm pretty far down the road and it has worked well so far.


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Originally Posted by DINK
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Originally Posted by Bigbuck215
No, I'm not a cop and never have been.


Wow...who'd a guessed? Thanks for the advice.


Lol...those haven't or can't always know a better way....

Dink


There is no special skill or requirements to be a LEO....which is why there have been an increasing amount of trouble between them and the public.


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I was brought up to have respect for people until they show you they don't deserve it. I don't care if it is a guy behind the counter at McDonald's, a Minister or a Senator. I'm pretty far down the road and it has worked well so far.


Well sure. Only a miserble person would do otherwise. Of course, the world is full of miserable people who love company.


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Originally Posted by Harry M

There is no special skill or requirements to be a LEO....which is why there have been an increasing amount of trouble between them and the public.


More words of wisdom from The Office.


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Originally Posted by ltppowell
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There is no special skill or requirements to be a LEO....which is why there have been an increasing amount of trouble between them and the public.


More words of wisdom from The Office.


I have more.


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Originally Posted by Bigbuck215
I would quickly re-asses my thoughts concerning my standing with the public, especially the criminal types. I would realize that less and less people of all types are losing their respect and fear for me and are becoming less willing to do as I say when I yell at them to "git on the graound" or sit down on the curb or willingly allow me to search their car knowing that I will do my best to wreck the interior. And that wherever I may be, there are several video cameras pointing at me from several angels so if I start punching and beating on someone I will be reported.

A prime example of what is causing a huge drop in respect for cops is the young hot-shot cop in Texas a few days ago the beat on and tased the old black guy because he was resisting arrest. Nobody wants to be arrested, especially when you have done no wrong. The punk wouldn't give the old guy a chance to speak up for himself but if he had, the whole situation could have ended up on a much happier note and jerk cop would still have a job. The way he conducted himself is bad enough but for other cops to hold up for guys that act in that manner is completely ridiculous. That adds more to the "us against them" attitude.

And I would try at all times to be on high alert and never let my guard down. It is very sad that the two that were assassinated in NYC were so quickly and easily taken out of the picture by one demented person.

No, I'm not a cop and never have been. I have some very good friends that are police of some kind that I have a lot of respect for and also know a few that are as sorry an excuse for a lawman as anybody could be.

Ya'll be careful out there.


That's a very reasoned post.


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Originally Posted by ltppowell
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No, I'm not a cop and never have been.


Wow...who'd a guessed? Thanks for the advice.


Pat, you are one reason it's"us against them". You serve us, your employer, we don't serve you, our employee. If you can't or won't take advice from your employer you ultimately will be fired by your employer one way or another.


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Originally Posted by ltppowell
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There is no special skill or requirements to be a LEO....which is why there have been an increasing amount of trouble between them and the public.


More words of wisdom from The Office.


I am a degreed chemist with a minor in business. If my company needs to hire a chemist they hire a degreed chemist and not one that wants to be a chemist.

Not a put down at all but then tell me what skills/education/requirements are involved in being a LEO?


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The older cop helping train a rookie on probation PROBABLY makes his assessment based on several factors. "Would I want him 'going thru a door with me" [ I think that's the right term ] would be on his list.

A rookie who grades well in that assessment might be a tad "too Rambo" to make an ideal cop.

But, if I wuz a cop, I'd probably label him a keeper.

So.......... the Rambos well be with us forever.


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Originally Posted by derby_dude
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No, I'm not a cop and never have been.
Wow...who'd a guessed? Thanks for the advice.
Pat, you are one reason it's"us against them". You serve us, your employer, we don't serve you, our employee. If you can't or won't take advice from your employer you ultimately will be fired by your employer one way or another.


There are something like 461,000 local police officers, and 320 million civilians in the US.

Any cop that took advice from each individual citizen out of the 750 that he serves should be fired.

You're not even the 1%, derby.


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