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I'll take it over the BC abortion, but couldn't comment on the bell bottoms until I tried it on.
In spite of its obvious flaws, I'd rate the B&C's seemingly straighter, higher comb as better. As to "trying on bell bottoms" to know whether you like them or not... you either like them or don't. They're an aesthetic choice, not a functional choice. Trying them on doesn't enter in to it.
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Brad,
That appears to be a functional design item to allow the abductor/flexor muscles below the thumb to come to a more rearward alignment behind the the trigger finger.
A similar design is found on the Anschutz stocks and McMillan A5 as just a couple of examples.
The thumbholes such as on the Accuracy International are the next step beyond this trying to bring the hand more behind the trigger finger.
Many find that such a hand position improves consistency in keeping trigger pull in a straight line to the rear.
They do appear to offer "classic" hunting stock designs also.
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It is ugly, no question. Especially for the type of action it sits around. I hope the comb height was set up correctly, but it looks like there is enough drop to be bothersome. I saw this picture a few days ago and had a friend going to SHOT. I emailed him and asked for his opinion when he got to their booth. Three concerns I had and asked him to look for were it's aesthetic issues, the comb height, and the forend. The looks are what they are, the grip is pretty nice he said, the comb height is tough to gauge without a scope in place, and as I feared, the forend is a club. Unfortunate.
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I suppose the only reason I can see for that overly exaggerated cutout behind the grip is if a guy has palm heels the size of a gorilla.
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Brad,
That appears to be a functional design item to allow the abductor/flexor muscles below the thumb to come to a more rearward alignment behind the the trigger finger.
Jeff, I believe you're right and typed the above before I read your post. I still hate the look 
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It is ugly, no question. Especially for the type of action it sits around. I hope the comb height was set up correctly, but it looks like there is enough drop to be bothersome. I saw this picture a few days ago and had a friend going to SHOT. I emailed him and asked for his opinion when he got to their booth. Three concerns I had and asked him to look for were it's aesthetic issues, the comb height, and the forend. The looks are what they are, the grip is pretty nice he said, the comb height is tough to gauge without a scope in place, and as I feared, the forend is a club. Unfortunate. Yeah, I didn't even get into the looks of the forearm. Bottom line, as you rightly point out, it's a spot-on classic action sitting in a weirded-up stock. Just doesn't work for me.
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Me and a pard are thinking of each getting one.. After seeing the pics, I really want to see one in the flesh and handle it before pulling the trigger. Be nice to throw it on the scale too.
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While I agree, you must have missed the part about the droopy comb, and clubby forend. What is really disappointing is that one of the worlds finest stock makers lives right there in Kalispell. Maybe he would have had an idea or two.
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While I agree, you must have missed the part about the droopy comb, and clubby forend.
What is really disappointing is that one of the worlds finest stock makers lives right there in Kalispell. Maybe he would have had an idea or two.
Exactly... but as the used car salesman said, "there's an ass for every seat"... but I just can't fathom alienating a significant portion of the market that prefer a classicly, svelt stock. Those that like the current offering wouldn't be offended by that, whereas the rest of us regard the current stock as a deal-breaker.
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Must be lonely at the "top". How did yours shoot? Did you even shoulder it? Haven't laid a hand on one myself.
But its always interesting to hear pie in the sky. Maybe just pass on the MRC and add a few more Echols' to your pile.
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I like the MRC action a LOT... have handled quite a few, as they've been offered since 2003 and show up here in Montana regularly.
Chopped glass stocks that need aluminum blocks for strength are not my cup of tea... they're always clubby. And I can't shoulder a rifle that I think is ugly, no matter its function.
Better to just order a barreled action and drop it in an Edge...
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Maybe they shoulda done that to begin with.
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Perhaps.
I wish them well... especially being a local Co.
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No longer a local, MT. company. Bought by rem. last year and moved the operation to Alabama. Sucks but the new corporate way.
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Hung with a new rope and still bitching
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No longer a local, MT. company. Bought by rem. last year and moved the operation to Alabama. Sucks but the new corporate way. Not true. Montana Rifle Compnay is still based in Montana. The barrel company, Montana Rifleman, was sold. MRC is still alive and doing great in Montana.
I enjoy handguns and I really like shotguns,...but I love rifles!
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Furthermore, most should handle and shoot one of the new production rifles before passing judgement. I've owned them all...every brand in their competitive market....and they're in the top tier of that category.
As I've said before, they're what the new Winchester wants to be.
I enjoy handguns and I really like shotguns,...but I love rifles!
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No longer a local, MT. company. Bought by rem. last year and moved the operation to Alabama. Sucks but the new corporate way. Not true. Montana Rifle Compnay is still based in Montana. The barrel company, Montana Rifleman, was sold. MRC is still alive and doing great in Montana. Yep,just checked and stand corrected. That's what ya get when listening to the local grape vine.
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FYI -- they committed to doing exclusives for us today.....and I didn't forget you lefty's.
More to come later.... I've seen you reference "exclusives" for us a couple of times. So what are they planning on offering for the members here? And I'm a lefty so curious how they're including is as well? Thanks
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