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Originally Posted by WildWest
I see on the Montana Rifle Co web site the info on the actions as per gas handling which uses Mauser and Mod 70 features.


Years ago, when Montana Rifle announced they were going to produce actions, there was a group buy right here on the Fire (if memory serves me). At that time Pine Tree Casting (I think that is the name) were producing their actions. This is the subsidiary that cast the Ruger 77. At that time, it was described as a Ruger action built to Montana Rifle specs. I don't know it that is the case now.

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Originally Posted by saj
Thanks for the review ordered the same rifle in left hand 260 rem, it will take a few months to come in they are going to make there stocks in house but in the mean time I have a left hand 22-250 in there ASR coming , should be here in a week or two.


do you order through a dealer or direct from MRC?


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I'm shooting an ASR in 7x57. It'll shoot, that's for sure.


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Originally Posted by woodson
Who makes their barrels?


They produce their own barrels.

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Great now I want another rifle.

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Thanks for the write up, good looking rifles. Been thinking I need a good accurate 308 so you just stuck them on my radar. I was thinking maybe a Kimber Montana but prefer for a rifle to be a little heavier. A couple of questions if you don't mind.

Where is the balance point with the 24" barrel.

Have you tried any handloads in it? Curious if you can kiss the lands with several different bullets and that long magazine.

What did you get for an average group size and did you try any other loads?

Thanks.

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Originally Posted by 28lx

Great now I want another rifle.


Happy to help. grin

Dave,

I did not measure the groups, but a quick eyeing of it looks to be within 1/2 MOA and the penny is there for size reference.

For handloads, which were used on the second outing in the photos posted:

Black Hills brass, set the shoulder back 0.0015"
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COAL 2.810"
Works well in every 308 I've tried it and it is what I use for hunting. Never tried any other loads for the 308 as this one is very reliable and five different rifles all have liked it.

I am out for several days, but will post some photos of the bolt and shroud to respond to the gas question. Don't know about the bolt handle. It appears to be solid, but I will ask and report back.

Glad eveyone found it helpful. The rifle runs so nicely out of the box, it is a real joy. I'll post a progress report after it has more rounds through it.


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For those of you interested, the CZ Model 3 was made by MRC. There are still some of those floating around occasionally. They can usually be had a little cheaper too.

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jeffbird,

Those are surely some nice rifles. Seems like I have a hard time warming up to anything other than blued/walnut for my own use, but I surely understand the attraction of a synthetic stainless set-up.

I don't have any major rifle ambitions, currently, but when the day comes these will be on my mind...

Thanks for the cool thread...


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Double D I ordered through a dealer and the 22-250 is blue and walnut

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They do make nice rifles... A few years ago I bought a stainless one off GunBroker for less than the price of the action. Seller bought a 22" stainless .350 Remington Magnum barreled action from MRC and had his smith put it in a B&C stock. He killed one black bear with it and decided he wanted to try a .358 Norma Mag. instead so was selling this one.

But with the longer magazine box one can load the bullets out so that they take up no powder room in the case body. 200s run 2900 and 250s 2700+..that is all the recoil I can use...

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...shoots less than MOA which is good enough for what I am going to shoot with it...

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Originally Posted by RJM
They do make nice rifles... A few years ago I bought a stainless one off GunBroker for less than the price of the action. Seller bought a 22" stainless .350 Remington Magnum barreled action from MRC and had his smith put it in a B&C stock. He killed one black bear with it and decided he wanted to try a .358 Norma Mag. instead so was selling this one.

But with the longer magazine box one can load the bullets out so that they take up no powder room in the case body. 200s run 2900 and 250s 2700+..that is all the recoil I can use...

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...shoots less than MOA which is good enough for what I am going to shoot with it...

Bob



Very nice rifle. I've had my eye on the XWR SS for awhile now. They look like great rifles. I have no problem with the investment cast receivers either: Been shooting and loving Ruger's for many years now.


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I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
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Originally Posted by jeffbird
These are not reviewed often here, so thought others might find a range report on a new Montana Rifle Company XWR-SS in 308 Win of interest. This one has a 24" barrel with 1:10" twist. Mag length is 3.125" and capacity is 5 + 1. Everything is stainless, other than the mag spring, which may or may not be, not sure about that. The rifle alone weighs 7 pounds, 2 ounces. The stock is a B&C Medalist, which is bedded at the factory.

It has controlled round feed, a three position safety on the bolt, and a copy of the Win M70 pre-64 trigger as I understand it.

The final price including shipping to my FFL and his transfer fees out the door was $1120.

On the first trip, I mounted a proven scope, a Nightforce 5.5-22x56 that I always use on new rifles to remove that variable. This was put atop a pic rail. I decided to try some new NF Ultralight rings to help shave some weight off, which saves 12 ounces compared to NF steel rings (16 oz. vs. 4 oz). These rings turned out to be an issue on the first outing.

The first outing, I went through one box, 20 shots, of Black Hills 175 Sierra Match Kings. The groupings were erratic; running 8 or 9 inches at 200 yards. This is the second Montana Rifle Company rifle I have purchased, the other being a 260, which consistently cuts clover leafs straight out of the box. So, I called it a day to reassess.

When I put in on the bench, I pulled the rings off to double check the pic rail and rings. The pic rail still was nice and tight, but on closer examination, the scope showed some scuffing from forward and rear movement. This was the first time I have ever tried the NF ultralights, which are aluminum. The inside finish is very smooth, so apparently it was allowing movement. So, I put some two sided scotch tape inside of the rings, which would provide a sticky surface, as well as acting as a very thin gasket to allow for better mating of the surfaces and more even compression. This turned out to fix everything.

This is the two-sided tape gasket:

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This afternoon, I took it out, bore sighted, and these were the first two shots:

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Made a quick correction and went to the next dot target, and these were the next three shots at 100 yards:

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Bottom line - this rifle is built extremely solidly of all stainless parts with a synthetic stock, and no plastic parts. It comes bedded, and shoots fantastic right out of the box. The 260 shoots as well as this one. So, Montana Rifle Company delivered two excellent rifles in a row, requiring no work, and ready to go hunt. Feeding has been flawless. All testing was done loading the mag full and cycling all rounds from the mag.

The rifles are very comfortable, and very easy to shoot well. This 308 replaced a Kimber Montana, which shot great as well, but I find the MRC much easier to shoot well, and much tamer recoil wise, thus, making it much more pleasant to shoot too.

Based on these two, I like them a lot, and would recommend them.

Here is a field shot of the 260 XWR-SS (22" barrel with 3.125" mag box) with a smaller NF up top.

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Thanks for the write-up. I'd buy one of those (in something other than 308 win, of course), just to run it around the block. Looks like a great rifle...


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Originally Posted by RJM
They do make nice rifles... A few years ago I bought a stainless one off GunBroker for less than the price of the action. Seller bought a 22" stainless .350 Remington Magnum barreled action from MRC and had his smith put it in a B&C stock. He killed one black bear with it and decided he wanted to try a .358 Norma Mag. instead so was selling this one.

But with the longer magazine box one can load the bullets out so that they take up no powder room in the case body. 200s run 2900 and 250s 2700+..that is all the recoil I can use...

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That looks darn near like a perfect hunting rifle for my criteria right there. That is one thing I don't like about my remington in 350 mag, is the short magazine length.

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Received a reply to my inquiry - the bolt and handle are one piece.

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Not sure if it was mentioned but they are no longer using B&C stocks. They are making their own stocks in house.


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Originally Posted by STS45
Not sure if it was mentioned but they are no longer using B&C stocks. They are making their own stocks in house.


That makes them even better. B&C feel like holding onto a 2x4, to me anyways.

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Originally Posted by bigswede358
Originally Posted by RJM
They do make nice rifles... A few years ago I bought a stainless one off GunBroker for less than the price of the action. Seller bought a 22" stainless .350 Remington Magnum barreled action from MRC and had his smith put it in a B&C stock. He killed one black bear with it and decided he wanted to try a .358 Norma Mag. instead so was selling this one.

But with the longer magazine box one can load the bullets out so that they take up no powder room in the case body. 200s run 2900 and 250s 2700+..that is all the recoil I can use...

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That looks darn near like a perfect hunting rifle for my criteria right there. That is one thing I don't like about my remington in 350 mag, is the short magazine length.




This one ready to pull the trigger is 9# even. With the extra velocity (as in recoil) I don't complain. The Model 7KS I have is 7# even ready to go and I just use the the Speer 220 FP as it is perfect for the magazine.

One of the posters here has a MRC custom build in .350 RM that as I recall weighed less than 8#...

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Originally Posted by bigswede358
Originally Posted by STS45
Not sure if it was mentioned but they are no longer using B&C stocks. They are making their own stocks in house.


That makes them even better. B&C feel like holding onto a 2x4, to me anyways.


Definitely a step in the right direction.

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Shot them an email to see if they'd deviate from what's listed and they replied they would be happy to. Inquired about a .243 with a little more twist or a 6.5 Creedmoor - yes to both.


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