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WCH,most of my shots at deer and elk are 200 yds or so. In the .300 Win with a 165 gr NBT,it was getting pretty darn close to 3300 fps and that is a flat shooting' load. Sight it in at 3" @ 100 yds and it's good to just over 300 yds.
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I chrony 3000 with the 200 grain and 3200 with the 180 using IMR 4831 with my 26" A bolt Browning. No excess pressure indications. Yea, I know that equals 300 Weatherby. I use WW std primers. THIS MAY BE TOO MUCH FOR YOUR GUN. YMMV.
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In case you want to try 150 grainers. DISCLAIMER THAT THIS LOAD MAY NOT BE SAFE IN YOUR RIFLE. Work up loads carefully. Again IMR 4831
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A few years ago i had two brother in-laws telling me how fast their 270 weatherby and 300wsm were.They both had 150 grainers so i loaded some up in my 300 win. This was the max load in the sierra manual with imr4350 powder. We shot all 3 over the chronograph and i beat them by 200fps. Cannot remember the speed but it sure made believers out of them. ED K
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Looking to try 200 NPT's in my .300 WM.
Would appreciate pet loads for that combo.
DF WM is WRA or Weatherby ? Hodgden, Nosler, Alliant, Barnes and perhaps more all have complete loading data for their respective products on the web for free. Assume NPT is Nosler Partition ? Here's a link to the Nosler site: http://www.nosler.com/load-dataGood shooting ! Best, Larry
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You're assuming right, Larry. I generally write WM for Win Mag, and Wby for Wby...
Thanks for the tips.
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You're more than Welcome.
I use W780 and 168 TSXs in my 300 WM (R1 Benelli), can edge 3200 fps (7200' + up) and 3 from a cold dirty barrel will hold 1" or better.
Sure it would kill anything I run across here in WYO.
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You're more than Welcome.
I use W780 and 168 TSXs in my 300 WM (R1 Benelli), can edge 3200 fps (7200' + up) and 3 from a cold dirty barrel will hold 1" or better.
Sure it would kill anything I run across here in WYO.
Good shooting, Larry You mean the Benelli you claim to have sold recently and haven't replaced yet? That one?
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Nope I did not sell any Benelli, I sold a Merkel. That's 3 strikes for you. Wrong, wrong and wrong. Special selected wood and 2.5-10x32 Nightforce with HV retcle in S&K mounts. Handles like 20 bore Benelli shotgun. Scope cost a tad more than the rifle, IMHO never a mistake. Might I suggest that letting hatred affect you abilty to read and comprehend is not a good place to be. My best to you and yours, Larry
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Lying Larry,
I simply asked whether that was the rifle you just recently sold. That was a question, not an accusation. Your mask is slipping, you lying old piece of dog feces. So, one question isn't any strike at all, much less three.
There's no hatred, Larry, only showing you for what you are. Your "best" is quite easily seen. Thanks for letting those true colors shine on through.
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I never said I sold any Benelli.
Here is what you said:
"You mean the Benelli you claim to have sold recently and haven't replaced yet? That one?"
Show us the post.
I'll turn the other cheek.
I hope you find a more constructive outlet for you endless energy.
Best to you and yours, Larry
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Been too busy killing hogs and WT's with my 26 Nosler.
200 NPT loads for the .300 WM are in line after the season. I'll for sure be looking at RL-22 and similar. I have old and new H-4831 and others in that general burn range.
Will report.
DF back on topic...My pair of 300 Wins seem to like H1000 best.. I run a little warm with 83 grains and large rifle primer.. not a mag primer...flat shooting and hard hitting... recoil is more like a big slow motion push...
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I had a book handy, and a little time, so I thought I'd help out a little...on background. In the Arms an Ammunition Annual, copyright 1952, JOC wrote that an ex-GI came to his place with a .280 Halger Magnum made by Halger of Keil, Germany on a Magnum Mauser action with a good stock. Thebig rifle went to Bill Sukalle in Phoenix for a 25" .300 Magnum barrel with a twist of 1 in 15 "which I figured would be sufficient to stabilize the long 220gr bullets at the high velocity atwhich they'd be driven.Then, he had Weatherby rechamber it to his version and mount a Weaver K4. Weatherby's top stocker, Leonard Mews did a "sweet job of refinishing the stock, fitting a recoil pad and recutting the checkering." The rifle weighed 10 1/2 pounds, including scope. He "figured," and gave his reasons why, that he was getting at least 3200fps, possibly 3250fps, with 75.0 gr of IMR 4350. A few years later, I built a .300 Mag, with a 24" 1 in 12" Douglas barrel and a Weaver KV. MINE, over an Oehler M33, gets 3200fps from 180gr bullets. Mine is a WinMag, with a long-throat, and uses H1000, 7828, and IMR 4831 to get 2950fps from 200gr NPT into a 1.25" group after several thousand bullets through it. I've never been sorry I listened to Jack. I miss him. Have fun, Gene
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JOC also wrote about [don't remember which book] the spooky accuracy of some 200 grain bullet in his 30-06. Perhaps it was the Partition. I believe he was so enthralled with the tiny groups that he expended all his supply in 'group shooting'.
For what it's worth, JOC was a very big fan of the 30-06. Damn, All this "Jack" talk is gettin' me emotional, he's the reason I shoot a 280 as my light rifle. Told me ftf "the 280 is a better caliber" FWIW , When on Safari, Eleanor shot a 30-06 w/ 200 gr Speer ptd. as her light, and touched off a 375 H&H on Buff,Rhino,& Tuskers. For all US game her Favorite was the std 257 Roderts Rich
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Not hardly,Eleanor used a .30-06 with 220 gr solids on elephant. She never shot a Cape buffalo or a rhino. Her favorite "light" rifle for Africa was a 7x57 loaded with a 160 gr bullet. She never used a .375 H&H.
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Thank you For both the correction & scraping the crust off my memory just enough to validate your post. I do remember Eleanor shooting the 220 solids , and it was Jack himself who shot the 375
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Jack used the .375 on lion,tiger,leopard,brown bear and I think Cape buffalo. He also used a .450 Watts on buffalo and his only rhino. For his only elephant he used a .416 Rigby. And you're welcome.
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Re: 200 Nosler Partitions My #1 gets excellent accuracy with R22 in Win brass with 215 primers at around 2920 from a 26" barrel. N560 gave identical velocity with the same powder charge and even better accuracy.
Switched to 83 gn Magnum for higher velocity, equal accuracy and less temperature sensitivity.
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