Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunting Optics Burris missing the boat....german #4

OK, so I love me a German #4 retical. Burris seems to have all but eliminated them from the FF lineup. It seems they all have the B plex now. This is the most useless retical for the type of hunting I do. I need a 2x7 for a upper build with a #4. Whats a fella to do?

I called Burris about changing the reticle in a scope to their version of a #4 and the tech told me the center wire is the same thickness ad their standard duplex type so I didn't change it. My son and I both really like Leupold's post & duplex. You can order a scope direct from the custom shop (scopes not available over the counter) and save a little money.

Used to have one of the lupey P&D. I hated the thing. Way too thin xhairs for my type of hunting. I got a FF2 with the #4 and love it....purfect. Now they go and discontinue them. ;(

So did Zeiss. I don't understand their thinking as the #4, according to one of their employees a couple of years ago, was one of their better sellers. And one would logically think that you'd pair some of the best low-light glass with one of the best low-light reticles...

I have a Leupold 3-9x40 Mark 4 PR with a Premier Reticles #4 that is PERFECT. Every #4 should be the same.. Premier had it right...

Stupidity knows no bounds, I guess people would rather gaze thru a complicated reticle for their 25 -100 yard kill shot on a deer .

get a meopta 3-9 with #4. love that reticle

Leupold and others all dropped the ball when they quit the post/picket reticle.......Trijicon has the only thing close.

Hunted for years with the 2-7 Burris with a #4, worked great.

Another good reasonable priced option is the Nikon.

http://swfa.com/Nikon-1-4x20-Monarch-3-Riflescope-P61591.aspx

Meopta's #4 is perfection

It is actually the same as a Zeiss #20 sans the top part of the reticle.

Had a Meopta 6x with thick a&& gorilla leg posts but sent it in and it was immediately replaced with the range finding #4. Miss the old one and believe the problem was operator error all along!

I have a Burrs 6x40 #4 and gotta say I love the thing. Mistake on their part getting rid of it.

Here's a 100 page PDF file, with the reticles of most manufactures. Last updated in 2012 I think.

Might help....


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Phil

Do they fit burris?

Too thin for my type of shooting.

I like the look of that one.... 1-4x not so much so.

I called burris cs. They can switch out the reticle to a 3p#4. I have to buy one used or new and for another $60 they will do the swap. Not optimal, but at least it can be done.

people just like the reticle because its called "german" reticle a properly designed duplex does the exact same thing. I don't know what you guys are hunting and when, but even with my unlit nightforce MOAR, ie not a low light reticle, I am able to shoot well beyond legal light.

cumminscowboy wrote: "a properly designed duplex does the exact same thing."
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Sorry, but that's just not the case. I can assure you that on the type of targets I shoot (primarily dark-colored hogs under nothing but moonlight or in very poor daylight), you can't tell where a Leupold or Swaro duplex begins or ends -- and that is the case with many narrow/thin duplex-types. The Zeiss #20 and Nikoplex are exceptions and are heavier and can be made to work, but a good #4 (like what Zeiss once offered) is truly invaluable in getting the crosshairs aligned on the vitals. The Burris #3P4 is also a very good low-light reticle.

I have never had my plain old duplex reticles cause me to not make a shot. Lucky I guess.