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Understand that there is another thread going with regard to alpha spotters, but didn't want to hijack.

Meopta spotters seem to be getting some good reviews across the 'net. That said, what is/are the major differences between the Meopta S2 HD and the Meopro HD? Is there ~$800 worth of difference?


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I own the S2 but being it's brand new I have never seen the Meopro HD. Meopta USA CS is stellar. I'd give them a call and visit with them about it. They'll shoot you straight. I believe there's a guy named Shawn there that's very helpful.


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Both the eye doctor and oculist show us different lens to look with and ask us: "What's better, A or B?"

Go to some retailers and look through what they have.

It seems that your looking at the 80mm spotters which are big and heavy and this is ok?

Does the Meopta S2 HD really cost $2,199.95!

I was using a Leu 60 mm variable spotter and not able to see small holes at 200 yds all the time.

I got a Konus 80mm for a good price and it's outstanding. Sure it's heavy but it's resolution is superior to the 60mm's. It cost only a couple of hundred dollars also not that I don't have Hensoldt, Leupold, Zeiss and Swarovski optics.

The Konus is so good that you can donate the money you save to the NRA!

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Go to some retailers and look through what they have.


Easier said than done in some cases. Trying to find a local retailer that handles Meopta is the challenge. Eagle Optics is about an hour and a half away. Gonna call them later and see if they have both available to look thru.

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It seems that your looking at the 80mm spotters which are big and heavy and this is ok?


Not a problem. Don't plan on packing it.

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Does the Meopta S2 HD really cost $2,199.95!


Unfortunately. Haven't found anywhere that it can be had for less.



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Unfortunately. Haven't found anywhere that it can be had for less.



Our local Cabelas has about (4) Meopta S2's in the bargain cave for $1605, and they would probably knock another 10% off of that price. And they are in super shape. I picked up a Cabelas Euro HD (Meopta S2) just after the new year for an awesome price- esp. considering they were having a clearance on everything in the bargain cave sale of another 20% off. Needless to say- I was stoked.

But even though it seems hard to believe ( and say)- the Meopta or Cabelas brand is IMO a deal even at $2200 when put up against the Swaro 80HD. And if someone tries hard enough, there are deals to be had on these Meopta's and Cabelas versions.

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That's bush league compared to what the OP is interested in.

An eyepiece for a good spotter can hardly be had for $229.

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Originally Posted by Savage_99
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In your case:

Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.

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Originally Posted by WiFowler
Understand that there is another thread going with regard to alpha spotters, but didn't want to hijack.

Meopta spotters seem to be getting some good reviews across the 'net. That said, what is/are the major differences between the Meopta S2 HD and the Meopro HD? Is there ~$800 worth of difference?


That would involve probably a lot of testing in different situations to find a difference. Eagle optics will sell you both and will gladly take one back and let you wring them out .

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There was no debate, no slander, just simple statement of fact.

It's funny how you run down various types of rifles because to you they aren't "fine machinery," but here when the OP is interested in truly fine optics you're talking up low rent stuff.

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Swarovski Spotting Scope HD-ATS 80 High Definition Glass (Eyepiece not Included)
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List Price: $2,543.33
Price: $2,369.00 & FREE Shipping


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Originally Posted by Savage_99

Swarovski Spotting Scope HD-ATS 80 High Definition Glass (Eyepiece not Included)
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List Price: $2,543.33
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Take your 299 dollar spotter and use it to spot a herd of ELk 2 miles away and then use the Swaro Spotter,Meopta,Zeiss or Leica and get back to me.

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Originally Posted by llama2
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Unfortunately. Haven't found anywhere that it can be had for less.



Our local Cabelas has about (4) Meopta S2's in the bargain cave for $1605, and they would probably knock another 10% off of that price. And they are in super shape. I picked up a Cabelas Euro HD (Meopta S2) just after the new year for an awesome price- esp. considering they were having a clearance on everything in the bargain cave sale of another 20% off. Needless to say- I was stoked.

But even though it seems hard to believe ( and say)- the Meopta or Cabelas brand is IMO a deal even at $2200 when put up against the Swaro 80HD. And if someone tries hard enough, there are deals to be had on these Meopta's and Cabelas versions.


This is GREAT advice.........The S2 takes a back seat to nobody, at any price.


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Originally Posted by llama2
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Unfortunately. Haven't found anywhere that it can be had for less.



Our local Cabelas has about (4) Meopta S2's in the bargain cave for $1605, and they would probably knock another 10% off of that price. And they are in super shape.


Which store is that?

The other question that begs answering is this; Were these actual Meopta (branded) S2s with eyepieces, or the Cabela's Instinct version (fixed eye-piece)?

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Originally Posted by Oldelkhunter
Originally Posted by Savage_99

Swarovski Spotting Scope HD-ATS 80 High Definition Glass (Eyepiece not Included)
by Swarovski Optik
2 customer reviews
| 5 answered questions
List Price: $2,543.33
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Take your 299 dollar spotter and use it to spot a herd of ELk 2 miles away and then use the Swaro Spotter,Meopta,Zeiss or Leica and get back to me.

You're assuming that he actually hunts...

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Originally Posted by Savage_99

Swarovski Spotting Scope HD-ATS 80 High Definition Glass (Eyepiece not Included)
by Swarovski Optik
2 customer reviews
| 5 answered questions
List Price: $2,543.33
Price: $2,369.00 & FREE Shipping


Take your 299 dollar spotter and use it to spot a herd of ELk 2 miles away and then use the Swaro Spotter,Meopta,Zeiss or Leica and get back to me.

You're assuming that he actually hunts...

DF


I don't know what his deal is and apparently neither does he.

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Unfortunately. Haven't found anywhere that it can be had for less.



Our local Cabelas has about (4) Meopta S2's in the bargain cave for $1605, and they would probably knock another 10% off of that price. And they are in super shape.



I've seen a few of the Instinct spotters with the variable eyepieces, but never one with a fixed? Didn't know there was such a thing.
Which store is that?

The other question that begs answering is this; Were these actual Meopta (branded) S2s with eyepieces, or the Cabela's Instinct version (fixed eye-piece)?


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In reference to 'fixed', I was inferring permanently affixed to the spotter body (as with the Cabela's Instinct) not a fixed power eyepiece. My bad for not being specific.


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the meopta S2 is the best spotter I have ever looked into. its better than swaro, zeiss, leica all of them. With all that said the only thing that would give me pause in forking over the $2200 for one is resale value. the other big names will always hold their value. many people don't know what meopta is and as so I think your going to take a hit on the used market. I never pay retail for optics, EVER. I buy right so I can upgrade without taking a big hit at resale time. there is deals to be had on the S2 call around is all I got to say. let them know your a legitimate buyer and not a tire kicker. you will be suprised at the deal you get. last time I looked I could get the S2 for about 1700 ish with a couple phone calls. cabelas would have to be below that AND able to cover the sales tax for them to be a player if I was going to pull the trigger on one.

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last time I looked I could get the S2 for about 1700 ish with a couple phone calls.


With the eyepiece, or body alone ?

Cumminscowboy, you make a very good point with regard to re-sale value, something I like to keep in the back of my head as well on large purchases.

I did do some calling around today, and will likely make the trip to Eagle Optics on Sat to do some side x side comparisons. When I called them to see if they had the various models in stock, I was told they did not have the Meopro, but did have the S2 angled, the Swaro ATS HD 80, and all of the Swaro ATX/STX variants.

In another call, I located a ANIB Swaro ATS 80 HD w/20-60x eyepiece that can be had for about same as what I've seen new S2s w/eyepiece going for. Hopefully, I'll get a chance to look at/thru it before someone else decides it's a good deal. From a re-sale standpoint, I don't think one can go wrong with the Swaro, but at this point that is not foremost in my mind.


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Originally Posted by WiFowler


Which store is that?

The other question that begs answering is this; Were these actual Meopta (branded) S2s with eyepieces, or the Cabela's Instinct version (fixed eye-piece)?


I was in the store today ( Springfield Oregon store); and they had 2 of the Meopta S2's. One angled and one straight. They were asking $1605, but I know they will take 10% of of that, maybe more.

As far as eyepieces- since these are the actual Meopta ones, the EP is not fixed. The Cabelas ones are 20-70 fixed. And BTW- the 20-70 zoom is a very nice zoom EP.

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last time I looked I could get the S2 for about 1700 ish with a couple phone calls.


With the eyepiece, or body alone ?

Cumminscowboy, you make a very good point with regard to re-sale value, something I like to keep in the back of my head as well on large purchases.

I did do some calling around today, and will likely make the trip to Eagle Optics on Sat to do some side x side comparisons. When I called them to see if they had the various models in stock, I was told they did not have the Meopro, but did have the S2 angled, the Swaro ATS HD 80, and all of the Swaro ATX/STX variants.

In another call, I located a ANIB Swaro ATS 80 HD w/20-60x eyepiece that can be had for about same as what I've seen new S2s w/eyepiece going for. Hopefully, I'll get a chance to look at/thru it before someone else decides it's a good deal. From a re-sale standpoint, I don't think one can go wrong with the Swaro, but at this point that is not foremost in my mind.


it was with 20-70 eye piece. I haven't acutally been able to look at an S2 yet with the wide angle eye piece. I would be interested in looking at one with it.

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meopta must be good schit. I see where some azzhat stole their stuff at Shot Show, and left the Swaro/Leica/Zeiss booths untouched.....

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I see where some azzhat stole their stuff at Shot Show, and left the Swaro/Leica/Zeiss booths untouched.....


Confirmed. Talked to a I guy I know that is at SHOT. Optics and laptops taken from the Meopta booth.


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I would sure like to know where you can buy this scope, with the eyepiece for $1700.00. Let me know, and I'll call and buy one myself.

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last time I looked I could get the S2 for about 1700 ish with a couple phone calls.


With the eyepiece, or body alone ?

Cumminscowboy, you make a very good point with regard to re-sale value, something I like to keep in the back of my head as well on large purchases.

I did do some calling around today, and will likely make the trip to Eagle Optics on Sat to do some side x side comparisons. When I called them to see if they had the various models in stock, I was told they did not have the Meopro, but did have the S2 angled, the Swaro ATS HD 80, and all of the Swaro ATX/STX variants.

In another call, I located a ANIB Swaro ATS 80 HD w/20-60x eyepiece that can be had for about same as what I've seen new S2s w/eyepiece going for. Hopefully, I'll get a chance to look at/thru it before someone else decides it's a good deal. From a re-sale standpoint, I don't think one can go wrong with the Swaro, but at this point that is not foremost in my mind.


it was with 20-70 eye piece. I haven't acutally been able to look at an S2 yet with the wide angle eye piece. I would be interested in looking at one with it.


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Well, there was no response from cummingscowboy, so I used llamas information, and bought one from the Cabela's in Oregon.

Price was $1603.00 with the full factory warranty.


Thank you Llama, you saved me at least $500.00 from what I could find here in Colorado!!

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Well, there was no response from cummingscowboy, so I used llamas information, and bought one from the Cabela's in Oregon.

Price was $1603.00 with the full factory warranty.




Straight or angled?

Glad you were able to get a hold of someone in the Bargain Cave that knew something about spotting scopes/Meopta. I called three times, spoke to 4 different 'outfitters' and not a one had a clue.


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Wifowler, PM sent concerning contact info on story mgr.

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Well, there was no response from cummingscowboy, so I used llamas information, and bought one from the Cabela's in Oregon.

Price was $1603.00 with the full factory warranty.




Straight or angled?

Glad you were able to get a hold of someone in the Bargain Cave that knew something about spotting scopes/Meopta. I called three times, spoke to 4 different 'outfitters' and not a one had a clue.


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