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I'm just going on load data and factory ammo here, but the .30 AR is a .300 Savage, at least as far as you can go with 150gr bullets...and the .300 BO and 7.62x39 are no .300 Savage, they are a 30-30. I love the 30-30 in the half dozen levers and a mini-sharps, but it is no 300 Savage/weak 308. Perhaps the .30 AR is the 10mm Auto of rifle rounds. Too bad Remington didn't back what should have been a winning horse. I know, as rifle loonies, we split hairs...but the BO and 7.62x39 compare to this round like comparing a 308 to a 300 WSM/WinMag. I might be exaggerating to make a point, but the two you site seem to be pretty mild in comparison.

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if I had your interest it would be the 6.8SPC2 as the right choice, shoot a 110 barnes TSX at 2700! Like that other dude said, and what I see in the field is that bullets matter more than head stamps. Shooting a big +200 pound boar hog in the shoulder with a 308/125 grain Sierra match king might possibly be likened to swatting a bull on the arse with a fraternity paddle; guaranteed to get his attention but sometimes not in the way you had hoped! grin. Given the choice of a BO shooting 110 Vor-TX or 308 win shooting 125 match kings sub 100 yards, I would bet on the 2000 FPS Vor-TX having the edge. Just FYI I just switched in my .308 from Hornady 150 BTSP's to the Hornady 150 GMX's for this very reason.


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The .30AR is definitely superior to the blackout. What killed my interest in the round was Remington's refusal to offer brass for reloading. It's factory ammo only. That's a non-starter for me.

It's much simpler to just get a 6.8 SPC2 and be done with it.

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They made similar decisions with the SAUM line.


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Originally Posted by MontanaMarine
I mean to get a 300BO upper put together one day myself. Seeing as I already shoot the 208 Amax in the 308/30-06 rifles, it seems like the only right thing to do....grin.


A 208 A-MAX at 1050fps is a lot of fun. More so if you have a can hanging off the muzzle. AA1680 is your friend.


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I doubt I'll have a can, but I would push them supersonic to 1500-ish fps for fun.

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It’s a real shame to see the 30 AR fade away. I was real excited about it when it first came out. I think it had the most potential of being a legitimate deer rifle of any of the other ar15 cartridges. Yes, before you start, I know that there several cartridges that can kill a deer. We have killed a few with .223 and .300 BK, but we limit our shots to around 150 yards. I believe that the 30 AR could have stretched that out a couple more hundred yards.

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DPMS has some 16" uppers on hand, 16" bull with the metal free float handguard...not too sure about pulling the trigger on one as the standard dies and brass seem to be non-existent. I've got the 556 twin to this upper and it is a great shooter. Factory ammo is available for the moment, but Remington has a habit of abandoning it's offspring if demand isn't sufficient, which is sure to be the case with no real source of rifles.


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I was super excited about the 30 remington ar when I first heard about its creation. Then I went looking for one locally?? At that time I was ready to pay the price for one in the r15. I was not able to find one anywhere near where I live. I believe this cartridge was brought out right when the prices went up on all ar type rifles. I think the prices got so crazy and the availability of rifles, ammo, no cases for hand loading all these factors killed this one before it got going. If it sticks around it might find a following. It will fade if they don't start making cases for reloading.

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Originally Posted by Buck2
It’s a real shame to see the 30 AR fade away. I was real excited about it when it first came out. I think it had the most potential of being a legitimate deer rifle of any of the other ar15 cartridges. Yes, before you start, I know that there several cartridges that can kill a deer. We have killed a few with .223 and .300 BK, but we limit our shots to around 150 yards. I believe that the 30 AR could have stretched that out a couple more hundred yards.


223 is easy good to 300 for deer.


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