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Not to hard to figure things like these out. Just follow the money. Plain and simple
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"Now which is easier to believe. 15,000 scientists across the world in on a big scam."
Since you have asked the question twice, I think you deserve an answer:
Of course they are. Follow the money. If I had enough money, do you think I would have any trouble finding scientists to do research to "prove" a 270 Win. is superior to a 270 WBY.?
Never holler whoa or look back in a tight place
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Of course they are. Follow the money. If I had enough money, do you think I would have any trouble finding scientists to do research to "prove" a 270 Win. is superior to a 270 WBY.? I have always been amazed at the large # of folks that are so willing to sell their souls to make a buck, mind boggling to say the least.
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"I'd rather see a sermon than hear a sermon".... D.A.D.
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I don't think the science is ever settled. But we have enough to go on, and neither side is making what I consider rational decisions. The left wants us in the stone ages, and the righ want to act like nothing's about; neither are rational. The left does not want "us" in the stone age. They want people that aren't them in the stone age. Travis Wouldn't that be "us"??
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So you believe there is a problem but you don't want to help fix it, if you're not part of the solution you're part of the problem.
You're by no means a stupid person Kevin but you sure do say some of the stupidest schit I've ever heard. Quit drinking the koolaid and I bet you'd come out of the fog. I guess you missed my other posts. I think we're already doing a lot to address the issue. My once a month BBQ isn't the problem, I'll guarantee you that.
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I don't think the science is ever settled. But we have enough to go on, and neither side is making what I consider rational decisions. The left wants us in the stone ages, and the righ want to act like nothing's about; neither are rational. The left does not want "us" in the stone age. They want people that aren't them in the stone age. Travis Wouldn't that be "us"?? No. Because that would imply "everybody" or an all inclusive reduction in modern day living for the sake of the greater good. Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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"Now which is easier to believe. 15,000 scientists across the world in on a big scam."
Since you have asked the question twice, I think you deserve an answer:
Of course they are. Follow the money. If I had enough money, do you think I would have any trouble finding scientists to do research to "prove" a 270 Win. is superior to a 270 WBY.? Again, that's like saying the cardiologist has to be wrong about your diagnosis because he stands to make money treating you. The scientists happen to be on the government tit because that's the kind of research they do; government kind. So because of that, you'll just ignore ANYTHING they come up with?
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Okay so what about this guy. He's not on the government tit, and he was paid by guys who specifically wanted him to come down on the side of the deniers. What's his motivation. If you follow the money, he should have come down with something completely different. http://disinfo.com/2012/07/koch-bro...ong-global-warming-is-real-and-man-made/And follow the money with the oil companies...they all stand to lose from climate change, yet not one of them take the stance that climate change isn't real or man made.
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I don't think the science is ever settled. But we have enough to go on, and neither side is making what I consider rational decisions. The left wants us in the stone ages, and the righ want to act like nothing's about; neither are rational. The left does not want "us" in the stone age. They want people that aren't them in the stone age. Travis Wouldn't that be "us"?? No. Because that would imply "everybody" or an all inclusive reduction in modern day living for the sake of the greater good. Travis We're saying the same thing, you're just arguing semantics. But we're still on the same page. They want us in caves, they want to live in their massive mansions and be the ruling elite.
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There are well over 15,000 scientists across the world who are onboard with climate change being man made. Are you telling me that all 15,000 are in on the conspiracy?
No, there are not. There are well over 15,000 who say we CONTRIBUTE to it. Big difference. Especially when you consider that around 10k years ago my cabin was under a thick sheet of ice......one that melted without any help from the human race. Eventually our sun will expand and engulf the rock we live on in flames. Just something to think about. (I am not saying we shouldn't be prudent and good stewards of our resources, jut pointing out that it may not be an awesome idea to destroy economies trying to fight something that we barely have any impact on)
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We're saying the same thing,
No we're not. Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Okay so what about this guy. He's not on the government tit, and he was paid by guys who specifically wanted him to come down on the side of the deniers. What's his motivation. If you follow the money, he should have come down with something completely different. http://disinfo.com/2012/07/koch-bro...ong-global-warming-is-real-and-man-made/And follow the money with the oil companies...they all stand to lose from climate change, yet not one of them take the stance that climate change isn't real or man made. I need you to explain how the oil companies stand to lose money from "climate change"? It's almost as naive as the belief, by morons, that when the government "sticks it to big business" through astronomical tax rates, that it is not the consumers that pay all of that tax through an increase in product cost.
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." TJ
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing". EB
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"Now which is easier to believe. 15,000 scientists across the world in on a big scam."
Since you have asked the question twice, I think you deserve an answer:
Of course they are. Follow the money. If I had enough money, do you think I would have any trouble finding scientists to do research to "prove" a 270 Win. is superior to a 270 WBY.?
Was a time all the scientists believed the earth flat. The fact Greenland used to be green proves to me the earth was warmer before there were cars.
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time by the blood of patriots and tyrants.
If being stupid allows me to believe in Him, I'd wish to be a retard. Eisenhower and G Washington should be good company.
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I need you to explain how the oil companies stand to lose money from "climate change"? It's almost as naive as the belief, by morons, that when the government "sticks it to big business" through astronomical tax rates, that it is not the consumers that pay all of that tax through an increase in product cost. So you don't think the carbon credit scheme of Kyoto isn't costing oil companies money?
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There are well over 15,000 scientists across the world who are onboard with climate change being man made. Are you telling me that all 15,000 are in on the conspiracy?
No, there are not. There are well over 15,000 who say we CONTRIBUTE to it. Big difference. Especially when you consider that around 10k years ago my cabin was under a thick sheet of ice......one that melted without any help from the human race. Eventually our sun will expand and engulf the rock we live on in flames. Just something to think about. (I am not saying we shouldn't be prudent and good stewards of our resources, jut pointing out that it may not be an awesome idea to destroy economies trying to fight something that we barely have any impact on) Unless the sun burns out and then it will get colder than a well diggers a__ on this old rock.
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time by the blood of patriots and tyrants.
If being stupid allows me to believe in Him, I'd wish to be a retard. Eisenhower and G Washington should be good company.
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This discussion would be a hell of a lot better reading if you guys would stop quoting gungeek.
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Unless the sun burns out and then it will get colder than a well diggers a__ on this old rock.
I hate it when that happens.
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Kevin, when your lying govt is telling you carbon dioxide is poisonous then i take everything they say with a gos. I guess you can say water is poison too if you drink too much too quick.
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time by the blood of patriots and tyrants.
If being stupid allows me to believe in Him, I'd wish to be a retard. Eisenhower and G Washington should be good company.
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This discussion would be a hell of a lot better reading if you guys would stop quoting gungeek. Here is a tip you. A person can dislike Obama and his policies and still question those whose stances oppose him. A Pole in 1939 may have cheered the Russians.....for a while.
When a country is well governed, poverty and a mean condition are something to be ashamed of. When a country is ill governed, riches and honors are something to be ashamed of . Confucius
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This discussion would be a hell of a lot better reading if you guys would stop quoting gungeek. Here is a tip you. A person can dislike Obama and his policies and still question those whose stances oppose him. A Pole in 1939 may have cheered the Russians.....for a while. I put Gibson on ignore yesterday. I will toggle his posts down in the shooting/ reloading forums as he seems quite knowledgeable in those areas, but I've read enough of his crap up here. If I want to read some socialis democrat propaganda I'll go over to DU.
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