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Thanks Mog...but I'm neither socialist or a democrat; I think they're both FOS.
I just happen to find credibility in the global warming science; that's it. I'm not promoting any sort of agenda, just agreeing with the science. Why is that so criminal? Are we not allowed to see things differently, or am I require to always follow the hive mind while at the Campfire?
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There are well over 15,000 scientists across the world who are onboard with climate change being man made. Are you telling me that all 15,000 are in on the conspiracy?
No, there are not. There are well over 15,000 who say we CONTRIBUTE to it. Big difference. Especially when you consider that around 10k years ago my cabin was under a thick sheet of ice......one that melted without any help from the human race. Eventually our sun will expand and engulf the rock we live on in flames. Just something to think about. (I am not saying we shouldn't be prudent and good stewards of our resources, jut pointing out that it may not be an awesome idea to destroy economies trying to fight something that we barely have any impact on) Unless the sun burns out and then it will get colder than a well diggers a__ on this old rock. It expands (to a diameter that would include our orbit) before it goes out. At least that is what they told me back in school.....along with warnings about the next ice age that was coming...... 
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I need you to explain how the oil companies stand to lose money from "climate change"? It's almost as naive as the belief, by morons, that when the government "sticks it to big business" through astronomical tax rates, that it is not the consumers that pay all of that tax through an increase in product cost.
So you don't think the carbon credit scheme of Kyoto isn't costing oil companies money? No, they just pass on any additional costs to the customers that purchase their goods. If the cost of doing business is $1/unit, or $1.10/unit, it doesn't matter to them...they just mark it up and pass on the additional costs to consumers.
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." TJ
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing". EB
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kenjs1,
Here's a little head's up. There are not two sides of the truth. There are those who reject it and those who accept it.
"Only Christ is the fullness of God's revelation."
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Did they start that right after they faked the moon landings? There are well over 15,000 scientists across the world who are onboard with climate change being man made. Are you telling me that all 15,000 are in on the conspiracy? Theory du jour - remember 40 years ago the "doom & gloom" scientists were all warning of an impending ice age. Anyone who believes man has altered climate to a substantial degree - is over-exagerating man's importance in God's plan, in my estimation. We are not that important! As far as emissions - .001% (or less) is a minimal amount, by any rational thought. Volcanoes vs cars - hmmm!
I've always been a curmudgeon - now I'm an old curmudgeon.
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Hey guys....keep track of the responses and you'll be able to tell who the 'liberal progressives' are!! That's easy, you can smell the sweating pigs from their 'apologist/white guilt' shacks.
Trump Won!
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The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time by the blood of patriots and tyrants.
If being stupid allows me to believe in Him, I'd wish to be a retard. Eisenhower and G Washington should be good company.
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kenjs1,
Here's a little head's up. There are not two sides of the truth. There are those who reject it and those who accept it. Agree Ringman, and there are those who never look at both sides an issue to see through the politics of it.
When a country is well governed, poverty and a mean condition are something to be ashamed of. When a country is ill governed, riches and honors are something to be ashamed of
. Confucius
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kenjs1,
Here's a little head's up. There are not two sides of the truth. There are those who reject it and those who accept it. Agree Ringman. Unfortunately many view those sides as either entirely pro or entirely anti-Obama as evidenced by the eagerness labels are thrown about here.
Last edited by kenjs1; 01/29/15.
When a country is well governed, poverty and a mean condition are something to be ashamed of. When a country is ill governed, riches and honors are something to be ashamed of
. Confucius
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Fossil fuels are a different deal. As the argument goes, fossil fuels are sequestered and out of the carbon cycle. It's only when man brings the sequestered carbon back into the cycle do they contribute to greenhouse gas emissions.
except it doesnt stay sequestered....if yah know what the phug your looking at driving through western North Dakota you can see where millions and millions of tons of coal burned off well before man was seriously in the picture turning a hell of alot of clay subsoil into a natural ceramic....
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also more oil leaks out of the floor of the Gulf every day than was lost in the Deep Water Horizon incident thats broken down by bacteria into CO2 and similar......tons of methane leaking out of deep water pockets aswell, whole ecosystems thrive off the chit....there are huge, really phuggin huge craters in the North Sea where large pockets of methane were loosed into the atmosphere in a very short order....this happened tens of thousands of years ago....
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Interesting stuff Rattler.
When a country is well governed, poverty and a mean condition are something to be ashamed of. When a country is ill governed, riches and honors are something to be ashamed of
. Confucius
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