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I've not seen any H110 as of late and wondering if anyone has a good substitute for it in 45LC with 300gr to 335gr cast bullets. I've been a fan Taffin's writing and he's not steered me wrong in the past. Thanks for any input. stevek

I've tried Alliant 300-MP and it worked great. But I can't find any more of that, either......

Winchester 296 is the exact same powder, and Accurate #9 is a close substitute. Alliant 2400 will also work for the same application.

Add IMR 4227, but it's a little slower.

I forgot that one, it may even be better with those heavy bullets.

Thanks for the replys. I use the 2400 with the lighter bullets 250-270. I had heard that 296 is the same as H110, but thought I'd ask. Appreciate the confirmation. Has anyone tried the VV n100? If not I'll just grab some w296. Thanks.

I have not tried it yet in the .41 Magnum but have used AA1680 in a .41/.445 SM and it did well. It is just a little slower than H110 and if you look there are some loads listed for heavy bullets in Magnum cases...

Bob

I thought so...

I haven't loaded in several years, just don't have the time. But my carry .45 Colt load was a 270 grain Keith (RCBS 270-SAA mold) at around 900fps out of a 4 3/4" barrel. It was loaded with 4227 but I don't recall the powder charge. It was a little louder, a little more muzzle flash, but she was very accurate and 900fps at Colt SAA pressure levels.

Lil Gun.

Yup, don't forget LilGun; it's probably the closest performer to H110/296, other than maybe 300-MP.

Vitavouri N110 works well in Magnums. 41, 44 for myself. Probably hard to find as well.

Man, I want some Lil Gun!

Don't know if I'll ever find it before I die, though...

I've been using 4227 in my .44 Mag with decent results (it's all I could find). The reports of it seeming to shoot 'softer' appear to be true.

I'm also loading 300 gr cast at 900-1000 fps.

4227 is a great powder. All I use for my stiffer loads.

I've used a lot of N110 in 460 and 500 Smiths and the Casull. Also in the Beowulf and Savage ML. You can't use the same data, like 296, but you get around the same speed, often with better accuracy and less felt recoil, as reported by my feelers. Kinda hard to find around here, but when it's plentiful I prefer it to H110, even though it is more pricey.

I would not use Lil'Gun. Way too hot burning. I mean HEAT as in fire, not pressure.
My revolvers all get 296, 2400 is good.
I don't like 4227's as they were very sensitive to gun heat in the .44 but I don't know about the .45. 4227 is super in the .357 max though. Worth a try.
300 MP has not panned out, slower then H110/296 so not enough can be loaded and you should not down load it. Do NOT down load H110 or 296 either.
There is no true sub for H110/296.
Years ago I found a difference in accuracy between H110 and 296. SBH, S&W 29 and many others preferred 296 but the RH loved H110. WW got one batch while Hodgdon got another and I do not know if it is still the same today since Hodgdon has both under their control but I still stay with 296.

I have heard about flame cutting with lil'gun but have not seen it in my example of one Ruger. I dont shoot a ton of hot loads but when I do lil'gun pushes them as fast as I want to make them go. I run a 280 LBT at 1200fps and thats plenty of fun for me.

I think the flame cutting with Lil' gun comes from when it's used in cartridges with real high pressure (for a handgun) such as the Casull. I've not noticed an issue with the .44 mag and loads at around 33 to 35 Kpsi.

N110 is another powder I have used, and found it gave up very little in velocity and was much more accurate than H110/296, but that was using longer OAL rounds in a Ruger SRH. I have not tried it with a standard OAL of 1.610".

It does burn very clean.

I've used lil gun and 2400 in the past, and while they can work as a temporary substitute, I've yet to find a powder that works as well for providing top accuracy, consistency and velocity in magnum handgun loads.

The trouble is all handgun/shotgun powders are in short supply. I can hit every gun store in town and they're shelves will be bear of every pound of every handgun powder.

Another vote for 4227.




Travis

I have an 8-pound jug of H110 from which I've loaded under 20 rounds. I loathe the powder and would trade for IMR4227 or H4227 in a New York minute.