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The last I read Colt has the M4 contract, FN the rifles contract. Colt also has a contract on the 1911 for the Marines.

There were reports a few weeks ago Colt was buying LWRC for $60 million; but so far I have seen no official confirmation.


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I don't see the Colt M4 going anywhere for a long time.



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Back on the subject of SAA's - I recently bought a USFA China Camp from a relative that needed money. My one previous SAA was a 3rd Gen Colt New Frontier, which was really good looking, but not well fitted.

This USFA does feel pretty nice in the hand, and with the action well fitted, works smoothly and precisely - probably how 1st Gen Peacemakers felt in their day, and maybe how a mint example still feels today.

I still prefer the Ruger Bisley grip for stout loads, but after handling this USFA, I see why the SAA became so iconic in its day...

...but now I gotta be careful not to slip a "Ruger only" load into the China Camp blush

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Originally Posted by deflave
I don't see the Colt M4 going anywhere for a long time.



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It's a very tough act to follow that's for sure. But they are getting long in the tooth, and inventories will be well worn out by the time we wrap up the war. There are "better" designs out there, but when you adopt a new rifle, you know there are going to be bugs. Most of those bugs are related to materials and manufacturing, not the design itself. So you really want to make a switch during peacetime, not in a war like we did last time. But I think when the war is over, the M4 will be slated for replacement inside of 10 years.

Of course there has been no less than 4 of 5 programs to replace the M16 since it was adopted, so who knows. Like I said, it is a rather tough act to follow.

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Well if all you bull shooters will allow me, I'll get back to the subject at hand. Colt will send you a letter saying what configuration the gun was in, the date shipped, and who it was shipped to for $150 if it is in their shipping record books. However, there is one record book missing, and entries are jumbled and incomplete for the early years.

I talked to Ron Graham, the leading authority on civilian Colt SAA's today, and he is excited about examining the gun. I will ship it to him in a couple of weeks, and if it is genuine, hope to get a letter of authentication signed by him.


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Screw shipping it.... if he is THAT 'excited', he'd be falling all over himself to fly/drive out to see it......

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That is a very nice SAA, it's a great find and could be a historic one too.
There are many sources available for it's history, John Kopec is one contact.
Colt Letters cost $100, I have one and another on the way.
They do not include any history, only how it left the factory and where it was sent.
Here are examples of my three generations on SAA. Top one is a 1920 that was sent to the Browning Brothers Shop in Ogden UT, middle is a 1963 and bottom is a 2008 (this one is out getting ivory grips, engraving and nickelplating) .
There is just something special about Colt SAA, maybe because of my cowboy days as a kid in the 50's .[Linked Image]

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Originally Posted by hclark
Well if all you bull shooters will allow me, I'll get back to the subject at hand. Colt will send you a letter saying what configuration the gun was in, the date shipped, and who it was shipped to for $150 if it is in their shipping record books. However, there is one record book missing, and entries are jumbled and incomplete for the early years.

I talked to Ron Graham, the leading authority on civilian Colt SAA's today, and he is excited about examining the gun. I will ship it to him in a couple of weeks, and if it is genuine, hope to get a letter of authentication signed by him.


Bad ass.



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Originally Posted by hclark
Well if all you bull shooters will allow me, I'll get back to the subject at hand. Colt will send you a letter saying what configuration the gun was in, the date shipped, and who it was shipped to for $150 if it is in their shipping record books. However, there is one record book missing, and entries are jumbled and incomplete for the early years.

I talked to Ron Graham, the leading authority on civilian Colt SAA's today, and he is excited about examining the gun. I will ship it to him in a couple of weeks, and if it is genuine, hope to get a letter of authentication signed by him.
Let us know how it turns out. You have a real find there.

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"There are many sources available for it's history, John Kopec is one contact."

jbmi,
I talked to Kopec shortly after getting the gun. He was interested in it, but declined to examine it because it is not a military Colt, which is his specialty. He was the one who suggested that I call Graham.

You are correct that Colt letters are only $100 (and take about 3 months to get); I had the $150 in my head because for the extra $50 they will give you the info over the phone with the followup letter arriving about two weeks later, and that's the way I do it.

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Originally Posted by hclark
"There are many sources available for it's history, John Kopec is one contact."

jbmi,
I talked to Kopec shortly after getting the gun. He was interested in it, but declined to examine it because it is not a military Colt, which is his specialty. He was the one who suggested that I call Graham.


Freakin' Colt snobs...


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Update on Colt;

I never got renewed contact with Ron Graham, guess he wasn't as "excited" about the gun as I originally thought!!! However, I did send it to Dave Lanara, the man that Graham uses for his restorations, and has probably closely examined more SAA's than Graham has! Here is his letter of "authentication":

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Ho...lee...schit.

That is simply beyond cool.


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Very cool!


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Well done. Congratulations!


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I guess Kopec was wrong about it not being military.

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Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
I guess Kopec was wrong about it not being military.



He was right. The navy never ordered em. wink


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Take that, all you doubters...


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Thank you for putting this up, it has been a pleasure examining the excellent photographs of such a rare and lovely object. Plans?





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