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..with a serial # indicating a 1937 or 1938 yr of manufacture. Ex except for a little bugger on the forearm. It has checkering and was advertised as an EG. I bought it at a local gun shop. In some gun books it says these early EG's don't have checkering?


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Schnabel forearm?
Solid frame?
Pistol grip?


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Yes to all 3. Sorry for lack of details. I was trying to post a photo. Also scroll engraving on the receiver and Lyman tang sight.


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Factory checkering on EG's started in about 1940. Check the serial numbers on the wood, end of forearm that fits against receiver, end of butt stock underneath/ on butt plate. Matching numbers will confirm the wood is correct to the receiver. If they match and the serial number is earlier, then might have been a special order. Does checkering match other EGs checkering style? GW


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Sorry Rick, I was typing while you were answering. GW


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sounds like a Salesman Sample gun with the roll engraveing?


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Thanks for all the good info. I will ck for the matching #'s but won't be until later. Looks like it has hardly been used. Blueing is 95% plus - looks original. Sharp points on the checkering.


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Yes, the roll engraving sounds like a Spiegel (Salesman's Sample) rifle. These are a none cataloged version.

Lets clear up the date. What is the serial number (first 4 or 5 numbers will work). For the date you gave most only had the butt checkered.

Is it drill and tapped on the barrel behind the rear sight and one hole on each side of the cocked indicator on the tang?

Is the front sling swivel used to attach the forearm or is it in addition to a forearm screw?


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Hi, I don't have it near me now but asap I will check these things out. Are "Salesmans Samples" good/bad as compared to standard factory manufacture. I think receiver serial is 377xxx. Can't remember 4th digit offhand. It is drilled up top on receiver which I thought strange.


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Congrats twin ray - looks like you hit an outta the park homer your first time at bat! smile

If you paid a reasonable amount for your Spiegel rifle you are a winner!

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Sad to say, the stock, forend and buttplate # (4125xx) does not match the receiver (3773xx). The forearm swival screw is in addition to the forend screw. D&T - 2 on barrel between rear leaf and receiver ring, 1 on receiver ring, and 2 others just opposite cocking indicator.


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I say it's still very possible that it's a factory gun.

And I think all of those holes in the metal were done at the factory as well.

Somebody will surely correct me if not.

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Detailed pictures of the receiver would help.


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More pictures forthcoming.


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The one hole in the receiver ring is not factory.


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twinray, here's a link to an old thread on these Spiegel rifles.

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbth...s/4575496/Re_Savage_99_salesman_s_sample


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Thanks and I know that I still owe pictures 😊


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