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I am researching my first AR platform. I have access to a hog problem area and want to go fast repeat fire with a night thermal clip-on viewer. I'm not convinced that the .223 is enough cart. for fast death on hogs. Has anyone experience with the 6.5 Grendal on hogs? I don't like the weight total for AR-10 platforms or I would go to either a .243 or .260 in one of them.

Comments and experienced insight really appreciated.

If you're going thermal, then go quiet. Get a can and go 300 BO shooting heavy bullets at subsonic velocity.

Where I'm at hogs run at the first shot and getting over 3-4 can be challenging. Running a can could let you get serious about helping the hog problem. And since you're going thermal, what's another $1000?

I've also killed a few with 55 gr NBT's and 77 gr SMK's in the puny 223 but at supersonic speeds, they seem to die good enough. If you don't want to go suppressed, then any caliber will work.

why not 6.8SPC2?

They sort of look the same to me balistically.

6.8 seems more popular by far. On the AR10's they are boat anchors.

Plus one on the 6.8 SPC

I certainly like my 6.8. Unless you are shooting considerable distance the 6.8 is the way to go IMHO and the way I went.

yes the six .8 suppressed or unsuppressed is the ticket on deer and hogs 325 and under, farther out something with more horsepower is needed

While were on this subject, who makes a good upper and what barrel length is recommended for the 6.8?

if I really wanted to dent the pig population, and that was my main reason for shooting, suppressed 1022 with a big mag on it.... sub sonic 22 hps... 1-2 shots in the lungs on every pig you find, and most won't be big enough typically that the 22 can't do it... and while they'll run a ways I've never seen 125 pound and under pigs not die from a 22 lr HP in the lungs...

6.8 works really well in 16-18" barrels. I have a 16" Precision Reflex upper. I love it but it was $1,000. It is a match grade SPR barrel.

A cheaper alternative is Iron Works who is a sponsor on the 6.8 forums. They use an ARP barrel which is very good and very popular.

http://shop.ironworkstactical.com/category_s/1843.htm

Would think 6.8 would work well, as would X39. And Grendel. Probably not a hill of beans difference between em.

Though anyone that thinks the 223 is lacking when running TTSX bullets needs to rethink it all.

Yeah a 223 loaded with tsx bullets isn't the same creature as loaded back in the 70s-80's with varmint bullets.

They make TTSX bullets for the 6.8 as well

the 95 TSX has my interest peaked in the 6.8, but I am ignorant about such things. However wondering if momentum does not play some part in penetration such as on the larger hogs, deer are easy to kill. Anyone shoot thru a 200 or so pound hog with a 70 grain TSX out of the 5.56??

If you are interested in how the copper bullets perform in the 6.8, this is a good thread.

http://68forums.com/forums/showthre...e&p=456500&viewfull=1#post456500

Scott, that is tough to wrap your mind around, but there it is! The heavier slower 110 grain TSX expands more and expands at longer distances than the 85 and 95 grain monolithic bullets which are as you would expect going faster! My experience of 1 with the 110 grain 30 caliber Vor-TX bullet at about 2100 FPS was clear the exit hole was bigger than any 22 caliber TSX or bonded bullet I had used in the 5.56, thru again both shoulders at sub 100 yards. very cool stuff!

I bet when I put the 95 ttsx into a buddies dads 270 it'll expand very nicely though.

that link he showed just had me scratching my head, the 110 at slower velocity expanded more than the lighter TSX bullets, cannot figure that one out unless that specific bullet weight has a deeper hole in the nose or some other construction parameter that makes it different. I will say this again, the 110 30 Cal Vor-TX is a real good bullet.

I forget, but what is the difference between the 6.8 and 6.8spc or whatever it's called?