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For hunting,competition,paper punching or steel banging...


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Woody have couple I really like. The four below are L to R .44-77 - .44-2-5/8 BN (.44-90bn)and the .44-75 Ballard. The two bottle necks is the hunting bullet I use. They are the original design Sharps bullet and they are cast using a Books adjustable mould that is locked down 480 gr. They are 1.4" long .433 diameter un patched. .44-90 made a clean one shot kill on a buff. The .44-77 took two because of the first shot was high in the lungs and the second put him own in fine shape.
The third one is the .44-100 Rem st and that bullet is a .433 Prolate @ 480 gr and the forth is a .44-75 Ballard and that has the .44 KAL elliptical @ 505 gr. I use those two bullets in both cartridges for Match shooting.

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[Linked Image] .44 KAL elliptical, .45 Danielson prolate, .44 Brooks prolate.

This bullet is a .443 diameter 516 gr prolate. I call that bullet the Danielson prolate. It is a fine shooter for the creedmoor matches in the .45-70 and 90.
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The bullet on the left is the 459,535m3 bullet from buffalo arms, works great in the 45-90 for long range target shooting.
The next bullet is the Saeco 645,probably the best grease groove bullet for all round use in the 45-70.
That's my selection for the Walmart calibers for now, have two or 3 slicks for those 45's, but couldn't really label any of them as favorite.
Moving on to the good ol 44's (the ones that made the world safe enough for the 45's to come out)
The Brooks original postell bullet at 480 grs (1.35 in long) works real well to about 800 in the 44-77 but is a bit long for the 19 twist in the shilohs. Shoots lights out at 600 in the 44-90 st.
Next is the Brooks redition of the "tankbuster" bullet which was copied from an original sharps bullet, dual diameter .435 on the fat portion of the shank and 429ish on the nose. Adjusted down to 1.1 inch it's a great bullet out to 600 in the 44-77 for either hunting, or slamming sillouette rams off the stand with authority. Lengthed out to 1.3 it will shoot well to 1000 yds in the 44-77. Bullet is also capable of shooting into the upper 90's with some x's attached in target matches. Am seriously considering having Brooks do this same bullet in a large enough diameter to give the 45's a dual purpose slick.
Next bullet is the Baco 434470, 1.35 long 435 diameter shoots well in the 44-77 to 1000, unless crosswinds start to give it stability problems, again just a touch long for the 19 twist, but works fine in faster twist guns.
Last bullet is the Brooks new postel at .435 diameter 1.3 inches long (455 grs) this length of bullet makes the 44-77 competitive to 1000 yds in all manner of conditions.


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Well woody looks like Don and I are the only once that have good looking bullets. Where are yours?

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Kurt been busy procuring lead,smelting and mixing alloy the last few days as I've almost shot myself out of bullets. So far these are the ones I've played with and to my surprise many seem to shoot to a similar POI out to 300yds.

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L/R...Lyman 457121 PH 480gr,,,Lyman 121 Gov't [525grs],,,495 gr Long Lance PP [as jorge coined it],,,#4 is from Accurate molds and soon to be my go to hunting bullet.45-530P PP [weighs in at exactly 530grs at 30:1] and last the Brooks 500 gr PP.

Picked up this Lee 459-500-3R from a local for $15 just to mess with but was surprised at how well and flat it shoots out of my 110 with barrel sights.

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Next up for an extended run of bullets and testing is this monster PP offering.550grs.

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I have Lyman and RCBS BPCR molds but since I received this one from Steve Brooks, it's about all I use. I don't compete - punch paper, plink and hunt. Took a mule deer with it this year and it worked great. At the time, Paul Jones was offering a 45 cal grease groove version of the original Sharps paper patch bullet (nose shape). I asked Steve to make a similar mold using that nose shape and keep the shank identical to his 540 gr Creedmor. He referred to it as the original Postell - it weighs 542-543 gr with 30:1...

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Youz guys with all the Hindenburg moulds have all the fun. -sniff-

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Some squirrel loads?

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MPS 510 gr cup base PP

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Originally Posted by DigitalDan
Youz guys with all the Hindenburg moulds have all the fun. -sniff-


Well at least you don't hafta buy BP by the dump truck load.. grin


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Uh, I do. -sniff-

Slug guns eat more BP than cartridge guns. The petite versions eat 100 grains or so with a shot. Even the tiny ones start around 60-70 grains. It is a sickness with no known cure.

I fiddle with little cartridges to pretend I'm being economical.

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OK slackers post up some pics lots more of you just lurking.. grin


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OK, Woody, here ya go.

Here's the bullet I shoot in my 45-70. BACO 535 gr. money bullet. 444 as cast 16:1, paper patched to .450.

A couple of notes about the attached pics. The bare bullet was found in the sand at 1540 yards, after three of its brethren had hit the mounted steel Indians at a Billy Dixon shoot. Note that patched to ride the lands, it seems to have slugged up nicely to be engraved by the rifling. It's hard to see the rear detail, but the force of the burning powder caused the base to dish a bit, and take a perfect impression of the paper folds.

Patched bullet in the pic wasn't one of my best efforts, but it's basicaly what my bullets look like. I try to do it neater.

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Here are some of the 680-715 gr I use in my .50-2.5

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Here is my experimental swaged .40-70 PP bullet I been working with.

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Kurt most interesting approach do keep us posted on your field tests.What's the cross stitch PP material ? Looks like a brand of tape I use on occasion. grin


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grin That cross stitch is an attempt to get away from the little lead the .50 likes to plant in the bore using the far left bullet. And it does do that in fine shape. In fact it holds more lube then the GG does.

The .40 cal rebated boat tail is a great shooter. I have worked with it on and off for 10 years finding a way to protect the base from getting deformed when the charge gets set off. So I made a base punch for a deep cup and wrapped the patch so it just goes over the start of the rebate and seated the bullet over a wad stack, card over the powder, lube wad, butcher paper wad over the bullet and wheat flour under the bullet. The flour in that deep cup base holds the base from getting smashed.
That bullet in the .40-70 shoots very good past the 1K, but it is a pain to make the bullet.
That bullet also has a small diameter cavity hollow point to change the balance point of the bullet.
That bullet takes more effort to make and shoot then it's worth.

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Originally Posted by Kurt71
grin That cross stitch is an attempt to get away from the little lead the .50 likes to plant in the bore using the far left bullet. And it does do that in fine shape. In fact it holds more lube then the GG does.

The .40 cal rebated boat tail is a great shooter. I have worked with it on and off for 10 years finding a way to protect the base from getting deformed when the charge gets set off. So I made a base punch for a deep cup and wrapped the patch so it just goes over the start of the rebate and seated the bullet over a wad stack, card over the powder, lube wad, butcher paper wad over the bullet and wheat flour under the bullet. The flour in that deep cup base holds the base from getting smashed.
That bullet in the .40-70 shoots very good past the 1K, but it is a pain to make the bullet.
That bullet also has a small diameter cavity hollow point to change the balance point of the bullet.
That bullet takes more effort to make and shoot then it's worth.

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I was about to ask but didn't want to offend you.. grin It's still fun messin with stuff though..


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Nah Woody, don't be affright to offend me. It's a good way to make me think of doing it a better way. smile


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