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Originally Posted by antlers
There's often roofing nails and broken glass and other debris way over on the shoulder too that can cause flats on a bike. I don't ride in that stuff for the same reason that you wouldn't want to drive in it. And bicycle tires on a road bike puncture a lot easier than a car or truck tire does.
If folks are riding side by side on a two lane road, they sure oughta get single file when a car or truck is coming...and if it's a busy two lane road, they shouldn't be riding side by side at all.


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Reminds me of a neighbor woman that came up to complain to dad that I drove to fast on the county dirt road.

Her: Your son drives to fast past my house, my kids play in the road.

Dad: G-Damn Jane, it's a fu-kin ROAD!!!!!, keep your damn kids outta the FU-KIN ROAD!!!!! crazy


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Originally Posted by bangeye
So Antlers If I read your answer right the bottom line of your answer is you can't ride on the sidewalk because basically you go faster than the pedestrians and thus it wouldn't be safe and it also would require you to slow down until you could maneuver around them safely and you can't be bothered to have to do that.

Nope. You didn't read it right at all. Not by a long shot.


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Originally Posted by gunner500
Reminds me of a neighbor woman that came up to complain to dad that I drove to fast on the county dirt road.

Her: Your son drives to fast past my house, my kids play in the road.

Dad: G-Damn Jane, it's a fu-kin ROAD!!!!!, keep your damn kids outta the FU-KIN ROAD!!!!! crazy
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Bicyclists may not have an exclusive on the Darwin Awards, but damn, some of 'em try!


This^^^, but they ard trying to show us we can travel and be earth friendly at the same time-like them.


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Gunner, that's a lot of weight. The highway is a pretty serious place.

Holton, that's a wide load.

We always move our tractor and air drill through town early in the morning when there isn't much traffic.


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Beats anything I'd ever heard up to that point in my life ID, gotdamn that woman was stupid.


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Originally Posted by bangeye
I'll tell you a little secret when someone runs over you, you don't want me on the jury when you or your estate tries to sue him because if I am, I don't care if evidence shows there are 50 empty beer cans in the floor board and the guy has two heroine needles sticking out of his arm at the time of he hit you, he's going to walk.

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Antlers I have a direct question for you since you are such a proponent of bikes on the road. How come when available bike riders don't ride on the side walk?



People who put lots of miles on a road bike aren't tootlin' around the neighborhood like a lot of us did when we rode bicycles as a kid. We have specialized bikes that are made specifically for riding on the road, not sidewalks. The smoother the pavement, the better. We go long distances, even up to and over 100 miles during the course of one ride. And we often go as fast as our conditioning and the environment (hills, wind, heat or cold, pavement condition, traffic, etc.) will allow us to. Averaging 20 mph or more, and going well above that sometimes. Riding on the sidewalk is not conducive to any of that. And again, good road bikes aren't made for sidewalks, they're made for the road. I can see how it would be hard to understand for folks who aren't cyclists...especially endurance cyclists...but for those folks here who do ride, and especially those who like to go long on the road, they can verify my answer to your question.

One poster mentioned earlier about a State law where he lived that required cars to give bicyclists on the road 3 feet of room when they pass em'. If they're not able to, then they just gotta wait till they can. Oklahoma has a similar law. Cyclists should get over to the right as much as they safely can, but unless it's illegal for them to ride on a particular stretch of road...they have as much right to be on it with their bicycles as you do with your car or truck.




If you dweebs would stay over on the god damn shoulder it wouldn't be such a problem.

But of course the shoulder is where it's roughest to ride so just ride out into into the ACTUAL lane where cars and semis travel 65-70mph....


Or when dweebs get real cocky and ride side by side on 'rural' highways. I popped over a hill in (remote)central MT about 80mph and here's two love birds riding side by side in matching spandex. Took up the ENTIRE lane.

Layed on the horn while swerving and thought WTF?!





lost count of how many of those types ive near taken out...they seem to think a pickup can stop in the same distance their bike can.....if your hidden by the landscape while riding down a lane and not on the shoulder on pavement marked 70mph you are riding on borrowed time...

i give as much space as possible on those doing their best to stay out of the way but some of them are doing their damndest to get themselves made into a hood ornament....


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Gunner, that's a lot of weight. The highway is a pretty serious place.

Holton, that's a wide load.

We always move our tractor and air drill through town early in the morning when there isn't much traffic.


about like an articulating tractor with duals



Flaggers required for moving certain machinery.



yes , been known to push the issue , blade is right at legal for here . have to put a tape on it to be 100% accurate on width

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You ain't seen bicyling until you have lived in Korea.


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Damn Sammo and Rattler, I'd of thought the only bikes in your AO were piloted by pickeled injuns on the way to or from the package store!

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Gunner, that's a lot of weight. The highway is a pretty serious place.

Holton, that's a wide load.

We always move our tractor and air drill through town early in the morning when there isn't much traffic.


about like an articulating tractor with duals



Flaggers required for moving certain machinery.



yes , been known to push the issue , blade is right at legal for here . have to put a tape on it to be 100% accurate on width
trying to remember here like over 12'4" you need escort we are 11'9" with the dozer

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Originally Posted by MadMooner
Damn Sammo and Rattler, I'd of thought the only bikes in your AO were piloted by pickeled injuns on the way to or from the package store!


hey some of us do leave the reservation on occasion.....lots of bikers on their way down Highway 2 on their way to Glacier aswell crazy actually one of the worst places to run into these bastards is on the rez over by Brockton....the hills just east of town make it so you can pop up on a biker you had no chance of knowing was there....


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OK, 9:30 pm on a cold and windy night and I just got home after ten miles on a bike, loaded down w/60 pounds of training weight. Through a lower income area of a big city, no helmet, no reflective gear, no lights on for most of it.

Basically, I dont really give a fugg what the rules are, on a bicycle my job is to get from point "A" to point "B" and not get run over.

My mindset is if I get hit its always my fault. Doesn't matter what the rules are, the rules ain't gonna save me from getting flattened. If I get hit its always my fault. This was the mindset that served me well on that 2,000 mile ride to New York State last summer.

Depending on what presents the lowest risk, I'll ride in the road, by the side of the road, with traffic, against traffic, or off of the pavement. Sidewalks are frequent too.

Some places I ride through after dark a helmet and bicycle gear would clearly spell "V I C T I M" so I prefer to go unseen.

As for trash in the gutter etc etc tire technology has increased by leaps and bounds. Expect to pay $50 - $70 per tire for the best ones. On that New York trip I ran Continental 700x35 Gatorskins and got exactly four flats in 2,000 miles.

Around here I run 26"x2.0" Schwalbe Plus Tours on my urban commuter 30-100 mile per week mt bike and cant recall the last time I had a flat.

The indispensable thing I gotta have is a good mirror or mirrors, I HAVE to be able to watch my six.

Works fer me, until such time as it doesn't I guess.

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Birdy, ive got zero problem with those out enjoying the road and doing their thing AND hugging that damn shoulder....as i said if i got no on coming traffic ill often give them some extra room crowding the centerline so as not to blow them to bad as i cruise by at 75 plus....

its just the idiots that are way out in the lane in spots where i did not have a chance in hell of seeing them till im right there and ive got almost no time to decide to hit them the ditch or if i can take the other lane....at some point someone is gonna get killed and the idiot biker is gonna be low man on the totem pole in my decision making, especially if im not alone in the vehicle and taking the ditch means putting someone other than me at risk of rolling....


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Anybody that airs the tires of their vehicle with a bicycle pump has to be part woman.


Any guy that nags guy they never met on the 'net about minutae from other threads probably suffers from low T.

After paying my road taxes a bicycle pump is all I could afford.



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its just the idiots that are way out in the lane in spots where i did not have a chance in hell of seeing them till im right there and ive got almost no time to decide to hit them the ditch or if i can take the other lane....at some point someone is gonna get killed and the idiot biker is gonna be low man on the totem pole


Yep, and there's people that do that on purpose, to make a point. Near as I can tell they are all Liberals.



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Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
OK, 9:30 pm on a cold and windy night and I just got home after ten miles on a bike, loaded down w/60 pounds of training weight. Through a lower income area of a big city, no helmet, no reflective gear, no lights on for most of it.

Basically, I dont really give a fugg what the rules are, on a bicycle my job is to get from point "A" to point "B" and not get run over.

My mindset is if I get hit its always my fault. Doesn't matter what the rules are, the rules ain't gonna save me from getting flattened. If I get hit its always my fault. This was the mindset that served me well on that 2,000 mile ride to New York State last summer.

Depending on what presents the lowest risk, I'll ride in the road, by the side of the road, with traffic, against traffic, or off of the pavement. Sidewalks are frequent too.

Some places I ride through after dark a helmet and bicycle gear would clearly spell "V I C T I M" so I prefer to go unseen.

As for trash in the gutter etc etc tire technology has increased by leaps and bounds. Expect to pay $50 - $70 per tire for the best ones. On that New York trip I ran Continental 700x35 Gatorskins and got exactly four flats in 2,000 miles.

Around here I run 26"x2.0" Schwalbe Plus Tours on my urban commuter 30-100 mile per week mt bike and cant recall the last time I had a flat.

The indispensable thing I gotta have is a good mirror or mirrors, I HAVE to be able to watch my six.

Works fer me, until such time as it doesn't I guess.

Birdwatcher


Good post sir!
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That's the way it's done.

Good on ya Bird Man!


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