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For elk, nilgai and animals of that size, which of these two will perform better, 200 Partition at around 3,000 fps, or 168 TTSX at around 3,200 fps.?
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I've killed animals with both loads, and my experience is that it would be hard to pick one over the other in terms of overall performance.
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The end result will be the same with either combo...Dead Critter !
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Yep...
On paper, the TTSX is 2" flatter at 400 yds., nearly 10" less drop at 600.
We'll have to see how they group. The 200 NPT is known to be a good shooting bullet in the .300 WM. I'm thinking the TTSX shouldn't be that far behind.
Will report.
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I'm partial for heavy duty service in North America, to the 220 grain SMP Partition, fueled with H 1000 and running an MV in the HOT 2950 fps range...
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A consideration may be for the 210 gr ABLR's DF, they can be ran to 3K with 26/28" barrels with Retumbo, have a listed BC of .730, gotta be badass WAAYYY out there.
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Nosler Pro Shop (SPS) has 190 gr. ABLR Blems at a little over forty cents a piece, so I ordered a box. Earlier they had 210's, but I missed out.
These 190's can be pushed to around 3K in a 24" bbl. and have a B.C. of .640. Not as good as 210's, but not bad. I already have SPS Blem 200 gr. Partitions. So, it's time to load some ammo.
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I have had outstanding accuracy results with 200 grain NAB with a max load of Retumbo in 300WM. Have not killed anything with it yet nor run it over the chrony.
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For some reason, 200 gr. bullets in the .300 WM have been some of the best shooters. The 200 NPT has that reputation.
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200 NPT got the nod in my 300 win mag last fall. Performed as expected at 250 yards.
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I've been checking ballistic data. It seems the 200 NPT, compared with the higher B.C. 190 ABLR/210 ABLR, shoots right with those bullets out to around 400 yds or so. You gotta get way out there to start seeing a difference.
So, I'm going to find out what 190 ABLR's will do in my .300 Damara, but feel these Partitions will be more than adequate for what I'm planning.
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The 190 ABLR are a softer bullet and not really comparable to the NPT inside 400yds. The 200 AB is a better comparison to the NPT and a .588 BC, but at 400 yards BC is largely irrelevant.
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Load up any 180 grain premium bullet with 72 grains of any 4350 and go kill a pile of critters. Speed should be around 3100 fps.
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My best 180 NAB/NBT load is with RL-22. But, I've heard good things about the 4350's in the Win Mag.
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No exp. with the 168's, but have killed much game with the 200 partition. It seldom remains in the animal with any kind of near broadside shot.. Killed one elk and a mulie with the 200 gr. Accubonds in a .300 wea.. excellent also.. Lately, I have been shoot most of my elk and some deer with Accubonds. Although I have used 150 and 165 in the .300's, but the tsx sounds great also...
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A couple of deer hunting buds, father and son from TX, shoot 168 TTSX's in their .30-378 and .300 RUM. They're pushing them around 3,500 fps, the Wby slightly faster than the RUM. Those guns shoot like lasers and are deadly. Those boys are pretty good shots, especially the son. I'm trying to convince them that for WT and hogs, my 127 LRX/26 Nos, shoots faster with similar B.C. bullets. And, they're wasting a bunch of powder and energy on these smaller animals, that for this application, my gun is a more efficient killer... Don't think they're convinced... I did concede their guns would be better for big critters. DF
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The 190 ABLR are a softer bullet and not really comparable to the NPT inside 400yds. The 200 AB is a better comparison to the NPT and a .588 BC, but at 400 yards BC is largely irrelevant. I've read that the ABLR's are a bit softer than std. AB's, designed to open easier at lower velocity. That should be OK on WT's and hogs. I'm anxious to see how the 190 ABLR perform in my Damara, which generally shoots everything pretty well with its Select Match Shilen barrel. I was wanting to try 129 and 142 ABLR's in the 26 Nos, but they're not to be found. DF
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I shoot the 180 Barnes TSX out of mine with 72 grains of IMR4350 at 3115 fps.
I finally caught two of these bullets on my recent trip to South Africa. One from a common reedbuck shot at about 100 yards, entrance near the hip and found next to hide in neck. The second from a blesbok shot at 326 yards entering left front shoulder and found next to skin in the right rear quarter. That is roughly 4 foot of penetration at greater than 300 yards.
IMHO, the 180 gr TSX offers the best of both worlds, the flatter trajectory found with the lighter bullets, yet the penetration of the heavies.
In the end, the rifle makes the final decision.
Good luck!
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Makes sense.
Do you think you need the 180 TSX to equal the 200 NPT, or could the 168 TTSX with it's tip and possible faster opening be more of a parallal to the Partition?
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