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I have shot a few inlines, and I never found them to be any easier nor faster to clean. It's just more "similar" to cleaning a centerfire.

I clean my long rifle with a work rod, patches, and a bucket of water. Works great, every time, doesn't take long, and nothing beats the smell of black powder fouling, lol. I truly do enjoy the smell of the fouling, as it's just a smell that reminds me that I got to have some fun that day shooting my rifle. My family is less than thrilled when I bucket clean the rifle in the house, but oh well. wink

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Break actions are much easier. As for looks, I have never cared what a gun looked like as long as it worked.

I grew up shooting traditional sidelock guns, with real BP...and while fun at the time, it was never anything I cared to do once grown. I am glad others do, but for me, BP Substitutes, 209 primers, and sabots make my life a much better place.

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Ha ha. As far as cleaning goes, when I clean my double barrel cap lock shotgun, I yank the barrels off and take them in the shower with me along with a rod and some patches. Clean the gun as I clean me. A whole different twist to "showering with a friend". grin


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Originally Posted by Pappy348
The notion that traditional guns are hard to take care of IS nonsense.


Funny how difficult some folks make boiling water, dumping it in a bucket with a little dish soap is. Pump a couple patches up and down, let her dry (which does not take long with hot water) grease it back up with some Borebutter and put it in the safe.

FWIW: I do it in the garage because the rest of the household does not think it smells as nice as I do. haha

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Acquired taste.


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Originally Posted by gnoahhh
The older I get, the more my attitude changes. When I was a "young and comer" I had to have the latest and greatest deer killing machine, killed as many animals as I could get away with, and drove like a maniac to get there. Now I could really care less if I am successful after a day in the woods (in fact I'm often relieved I don't have to bust a gut dealing with a monster buck after it's down), I'm content to dawdle along on the drive there, and the rifle/shotgun I carry has to be aesthetically pleasing more so than super efficient. I see young guys taking to the woods as if they were on a Marine recon mission and can't help but wonder about that which they are missing out on.

As I sit in the woods on an Indian Summer day admiring the rifle I built many years ago, I reflect on the hundreds of hours I spent building it and feel a direct connection to my ancestor who roamed the woods of Pennsylvania with the family heirloom long rifle I copied it from. For me there is definitely a higher plane of experience regarding the whole muzzle loading deal than just "getting a few more days afield" and utilizing the the most up to date technology. But that's me.

(And yes, anyone who shies away from Holy Black and sidelock ignition due to the "mess" involved is either a wuss or never gave it a fair shake. That's my biased opinion and I'm sticking to it! grin )

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Ahhhhhhhh, YES, Gnoahhh, smile

You've excellently expressed so very well the thoughts and deep feelings a great many of us older hunters eventually come to feel.

I doubt that younger hunters can comprehend that, some day, their thoughts & feelings may come to be the same. Only with experience and age comes such feelings and only "time" can cause that to happen.

I'm glad to read that others have those same feelings I've come to have. Being in the woods with a familiar and friendly rifle has a "goodness" all it's own... and shooting game becomes secondary or even not-of-great-importance once one reaches that point in life where it's the total experience rather than just the "kill" that makes for a pleasant day in the woods.

THANK YOU, my friend, for saying it so well. grin


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I do all my gun hunting for deer, hogs and turkey with flintlocks I build. Just like knowing what it was like to hunt with these guns back in the 1700 and 1800's.

Only got two now a .58cal. for deer mostly (have killed hogs with it) and .20ga. for spring gobblers and a few squirrels...did kill one hog with my first .20ga. and no. 6's. Shot her behind the ear at about one long step. I built both the .58cal and .20ga I got now lightweight.

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Beautiful!

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Hoyt, those are great. Hard to think of a more respectful way to take an animal.


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To the original question by the OP, I firmly believe at least around here traditional is making a strong comeback as well as long bow vs compound which is quite welcomed IMO.


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here are a couple of my latest completed orders

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Beautiful work sir absolutely immaculate in every detail.


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Will second that! Beautiful work it is!


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Holy crap those are nice. Love the sliding patch box.


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Capt, can you provide a little info, such as caliber/bore etc?


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looks like a traditions kentucky

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Originally Posted by bigblock455
looks like a traditions kentucky


You're either in need of a consult with an optometrist of just full of pasture pie...

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The top rifle is based off a later Emmel , stocked in black walnut .
Its mounted in iron with a 40 cal , Rice , A weight target barrel . The lock is a Chambers Siler and the triggers are a set that I build .

The 2nd rifle is a spin off of an Issac Haines and stocked in Fiddle back , English walnut . All the Hardware and inlay work is German silver, all of which is engraved
The barrel is an early 54 cal Getz 39 inch A weight , banded with 14kt gold and engraved at the tang and breech areas
The lock is a Chambers and the pan I have lined with 18kt gold .
the toe plate on this rifle is a combination of Brass and German silver inlay as well as wire work.

here are a few more photos of the 2nd rifle . i have more on my facebook page


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Great Zot! Beautiful work and thanks for the info. That inlay work looks like an exercise in patience. How long did it take to build that gun, start to finish?


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Originally Posted by bigblock455
looks like a traditions kentucky

are you serious?? that's an insult.

Hoyt and Captchee, those are some beautiful functional works of art!


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