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The area I'm hunting in does not have an either sex hunt. So I'm not sure what tag to get. I'm leaning towards cow because their's more of them but the area does have some decent bulls just not as many. This is a first for me. What do you all suggest?

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First hunt? Get the cow tag.

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Gunnison W.elk wilderness. Why cow elk?

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Because if you get a cow tag you're sure to see many large bulls.

Seriously though, the cow tag is a good bit cheaper, but if you'd be happier with a bull, get a bull tag. If you'd be happy with any elk, you've got better odds with a cow.



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Yeah I thnk that's good advice. I'm mostly after the meat. Bull elk next year. Seeing a bull and having a cow tag is the way my luck runs your right about that.

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Meat or antlers? I've shot a lot of both and on the average, the cows are more tender and better eating.


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It's good to get your trigger finger used learning to hunt elk if you have not been successful before.
Cows are all I hunt anymore unless I happen o get an either sex tag


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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
Meat or antlers? I've shot a lot of both and on the average, the cows are more tender and better eating.


I love the flavor of Elk,

and I don't care what any one else says, All the Bulls I've eaten, were "chewey"

You want good meat? A Cow tips the odds in your favor.

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since there are more cows that is what we did. Can't eat the antlers anyway.

of course we saw mostly bulls and few cows, but just were not in the right place at the right time.

Personally I"ve become quite conscious of quality management and simply can't bring myself to shoot a couple year old small 4 or 5 point raghorn just to say I did. I don't have that mentality.

I'll get a bull tag for shooting one for the wall one of these days. If I get around to it. As long as cow tags are available and even if they were same cost as a bull, i'd be looking for the cows.


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I'll weigh in by recommending a cow. Never had a bad one, and they have all been better than bulls, even spikes. And a mature cow produces more meat than a spike. You are virtually guaranteed to see a big bull you can do noting but look at if you have a cow tag. Enjoy the trip and learn about elk.

Good hunting.

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Another vote for cow.

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Unit 54 or 53? I'd go for the cow tag.

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Sounds good cow tag it is.

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Originally Posted by Ziggy
Gunnison W.elk wilderness. Why cow elk?

ZiggY:

Check page 43 of the 2015 Colorado Big Game hunting brochure. There are either-sex tags offered in every season in unit 54. I think that's the best option for a nonresident.

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I'm not familiar with 54, all of my scouting was done in 53. All of my maps are of exact locations in 53. I've researched 53 for along time, their was not much else to do until I could finally manage the hunt. What can you tell me about 54? I picked 53 because I was given exact game crossings and started scouting from there. I took off 1wk last yr to check it out. In 54 I was givin large drainges as a starting point but the locations were not exact and required more time to scout.

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Rifle or bow hunt?

A large number of cow noses/eyes and archery range is not always such a good combo. (Although being in elk is always good).

Be sure to take a camera with the cow tag.
Here is my experience last bow season with a cow tag in my pocket.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-hMqgfpimODRk5sOFZIWnc4ZWc/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-hMqgfpimODRG0teW5UYS1XdGc/view?usp=sharing

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I have seen more nice bulls come out of 53 than 54. Specifically the northeastern quadrant going in over Bechwith pass. Last year a young fellow took a bull that was at least 380. During the early hunts and at least about 1/2 away into the 1st rifle season, the better bulls usually get pushed back into 53 and the cows head for the bottom land hay fields on private land. There is a reason that there are so many cow tags left for muzzleloader season.

I don't think anyone is going to give out specific locations of their honey holes. Especially on a forum with 30K-40K members.

I have been hunting 54 for 20 years on and off and I still don't have any, what some would call honey holes. Every elk I have killed in that unit has come hard .
If someone believes cows are a sure thing hunt, they haven't hunted in 54 very often.

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While I think there sure can be honey holes, as nomadic as elk are, I just don't think its nearly the same as a trail crossing for white tails.

Elk just seem to do whatever and for no reason at all typically... obviously they have their reasons, but nothing firm enough to form a set pattern, other than elk have always, for us, been where you find them. And that means about nothing really.


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with 54 you'll be doing a lot of hiking, but this is what it's all about. TONS of good areas in there, with a nice herd. I live in Crested Butte, so I know the area pretty well, beautiful country. I would say either tags with a cow tag as backup. As far as the area to hunt, weather will be your determining factor.

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Has Ziggy said what season he's considering yet?


Originally Posted by Mannlicher
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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