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Seems to me there needs to be some sort or check and balance on this thing, which is not even founded in Constitutional law. Say some level of congressional approval? 55 or60% of both chambers?

There are checks and balances, but they rely on one side/branch opposing the others. We've, sadly, slipped the bonds of a lawful country. When everyone has a hand in the till, so to speak, they are all allies.

If congress needs to debate and approve an EO, there's no need for the EO. Congress is doing what it does anyway.

This hasn't been much of an issue in the past with other presidents. Mostly because they were, well... presidential. They didn't stoop this low, and had fear of disgrace, impeachment, and dishonor, and perhaps even had morals and sense of duty.

Not so with our current one. He has figured out how to finagle the system with executive orders and actions to further his agenda, and do the most damage to the country that elected him. He cares not whether he is disgraced or faces consequences because he feels he is above all that.

This administration tested the waters with orders and actions and found no real resistance, so now they are ramping up the ante to get down to the real order of business.

And we let them continue.

How are we letting them continue? I mean I get it, but what is the solution and how and maybe when do we effect it?

If enough people raise their voices, it will stop.

The problem is, so many are comfortable to just be left alone, and if it doesn't affect them personally, they could care less. Those that do see the problem and want to change it are unorganized and have no leadership.

Answer to most questions as to how he can get away with it. When it became deriguer to ban smoking in most venues it was "for our own and the public good" and most folks thought it was OK. Ever since, many many OTHER things have come under decree "for our own and the public good". Somebody somewhere doesn't like something and would happily impose THEIR standards on everyone else regardless of how intrusive. Ya gots da results with the scumbag-in-chief now.

I don't think there should be such a thing as an "Executive Order". This completely bypasses the checks and balances the government is supposed to have. With executive orders any president can make any ruling he desires. That is more dictatorship than democratic government.

Jim

I agreee that we have a bunch of inane idiots voting, but we also have a president, after getting his butt handed to him in the last election said that he hears all the voters that did not vote, because, after all, "election matter." He cares not one whit about the voters unless they are his minions.

Executive orders are necessary because the executive branch is charged with carrying out the laws. That being said, I believe Congress should be able to ask for a judicial review at the appellate level (DC District) on any Executive order. Unfortunately, the president would veto such a law.

Congress needs the power to assign special prosecutors to deliver justice to those in the bureaucracy that are violating the law as directed by executive orders or otherwise. That way when Tyrant Obama the Liar orders them to violated our laws they will refuse or face jail.

All I want is the next person in the WH to cancel 300 or orders.
Don't think we can get that type of President voted in. You know the one balls.

Congress has no job in a dictatorship. The people just become slaves to the dictator.

Don't worry, Christie or similar will get in as 2016 POTUS and we can go back to supporting EO's again.

EO the numbers.

George Washington 8
John Adams 1
Thomas Jefferson 4
James Madison 1
James Monroe 1
John Quincy Adams 3
Andrew Jackson 12
Martin van Buren 10
William Henry Harrison 0
John Tyler 17
James K. Polk 18
Zachary Taylor 5
Millard Fillmore 12
Franklin Pierce 35
James Buchanan 16
Abraham Lincoln 48
Andrew Johnson 79
Ulysses S. Grant 217
Rutherford B. Hayes 92
James Garfield 6
Chester Arthur 96
Grover Cleveland (first term) 113
Benjamin Harrison 143
Grover Cleveland (second term) 140
William McKinley 185
Theodore Roosevelt 1,081
William Howard Taft 724
Woodrow Wilson 1,803
Warren G. Harding 522
Calvin Coolidge 1,203
Herbert Hoover 968
Franklin D. Roosevelt 3,522
Harry S. Truman 907
Dwight D. Eisenhower 484
John F. Kennedy 214
Lyndon B. Johnson 325
Richard Nixon 346
Gerald R. Ford 169
Jimmy Carter 320
Ronald Reagan 381
George H.W. Bush 166
Bill Clinton 364
George W. Bush 291
Barack Obama (as of 2014-11-21) 194

Like both legislative statutes and regulations promulgated by government agencies, executive orders are subject to judicial review, and may be struck down if deemed by the courts to be unsupported by statute or the Constitution.

A lot of folks are confused about what's happening in the executive branch. To be clear, Obama is NOT issuing a ton of executive orders to create new laws.

He's simply directing all of the executive branch agencies to do things they've never done before, and often actions that the agency has not been given clear power to do.

Dictatorship by unconstitutional regulation is what's happening.