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I live near the border of a neighboring state. An individual (non FFL) in the next state has a shotgun I would like to buy. He won't ship it. How can I complete this transaction? Can I meet him at an ffl in his state and have the ffl do the transfer to me (a non resident of that state) ??? Thanks for any input.

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I think you have to receive it at an FFL in your home state. Maybe contact an FFL near him and see if he will ship it for you/him.
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Meet him in a Wal-Mart parking lot, pay him for the tool you are buying from him, put the tool you bought from him in your car...and drive home.


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From whom may an unlicensed person acquire a firearm under the GCA?


A person may only acquire a firearm within the person’s own State, except that he or she may purchase or otherwise acquire a rifle or shotgun, in person, at a licensee’s premises in any State, provided the sale complies with State laws applicable in the State of sale and the State where the purchaser resides. A person may borrow or rent a firearm in any State for temporary use for lawful sporting purposes.

[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(3) and (5), 922(b)(3), 27 CFR 478.29 and 478.30]


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Bottom of the page "unlicensed persons"

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Originally Posted by RatherBHuntin
I live near the border of a neighboring state. An individual (non FFL) in the next state has a shotgun I would like to buy. He won't ship it. How can I complete this transaction? Can I meet him at an ffl in his state and have the ffl do the transfer to me (a non resident of that state) ??? Thanks for any input.


Yes. That's the way to keep it legal.

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yes, you can complete the transaction at an FFL in the sellers state. Just like buying a long gun from a dealer in that state.

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It's long gun and a neighboring state. As long as you can legally purchase, you can make a private transaction in person with no check. Both Georgia and Alabama have no background check on private sales.



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Originally Posted by WyColoCowboy
It's long gun and a neighboring state. As long as you can legally purchase, you can make a private transaction in person with no check. Both Georgia and Alabama have no background check on private sales.


And is illegal

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Originally Posted by 700LH
Originally Posted by WyColoCowboy
It's long gun and a neighboring state. As long as you can legally purchase, you can make a private transaction in person with no check. Both Georgia and Alabama have no background check on private sales.


And is illegal



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Meet him in a Wal-Mart parking lot, pay him for the tool you are buying from him, put the tool you bought from him in your car...and drive home.


Never done it.
Or farted, drove above the speed limit OE called my wife a name behind her back.
Simply didn't happen.


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Originally Posted by Oakster
yes, you can complete the transaction at an FFL in the sellers state. Just like buying a long gun from a dealer in that state.

Which is exactly what you're doing as it goes through the dealer's book. Or you can complete the transaction at an FFL in the buyer's state which is dealer buys then sells to you also.


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Originally Posted by 700LH
Originally Posted by WyColoCowboy
It's long gun and a neighboring state. As long as you can legally purchase, you can make a private transaction in person with no check. Both Georgia and Alabama have no background check on private sales.


And is illegal


Do you enjoy looking foolish... and wrong?

Based on current law you may purchase through FFL in buyer's or seller's state.


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Originally Posted by Sitka deer
Originally Posted by 700LH
Originally Posted by WyColoCowboy
It's long gun and a neighboring state. As long as you can legally purchase, you can make a private transaction in person with no check. Both Georgia and Alabama have no background check on private sales.


And is illegal


Do you enjoy looking foolish... and wrong?

Based on current law you may purchase through FFL in buyer's or seller's state.


i hope you are calling WCC wrong, because gun sales across state lines requires a FFL to be legal

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Originally Posted by Sitka deer
Originally Posted by 700LH
Originally Posted by WyColoCowboy
It's long gun and a neighboring state. As long as you can legally purchase, you can make a private transaction in person with no check. Both Georgia and Alabama have no background check on private sales.


And is illegal


Do you enjoy looking foolish... and wrong?

Based on current law you may purchase through FFL in buyer's or seller's state.


Yes on Federal law, no on state law, or should I say Yes on some state's laws.


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It's kind of funny that when I used to go to the Wannamaker gun shows (infrequently) and have asked a dude selling a gun, all I asked him was how it shot and how much he wanted. Don't think I ever asked him where he was from. Never even crossed my mind he could be from out of state. ;-)


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Originally Posted by Sitka deer
Originally Posted by 700LH
Originally Posted by WyColoCowboy
It's long gun and a neighboring state. As long as you can legally purchase, you can make a private transaction in person with no check. Both Georgia and Alabama have no background check on private sales.


And is illegal


Do you enjoy looking foolish... and wrong?

Based on current law you may purchase through FFL in buyer's or seller's state.


At an FFL yes, but not a "private transaction"
Go read the ATF link provided so you can enjoy feeling foolish.

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It's a violation of both the second and 14th amendments. A federal judge recently ruled that interstate FFL requirement on interstate firearm transactions are unconstitutional.

If I am legally eligible to purchase a firearm, according to the ruling, I should be able to do that in all 50 states. (Equal protection clause).

Buy it and bring it home.


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Originally Posted by WyColoCowboy
It's a violation of both the second and 14th amendments. A federal judge recently ruled that interstate FFL requirement on interstate firearm transactions are unconstitutional.

If I am legally eligible to purchase a firearm, according to the ruling, I should be able to do that in all 50 states. (Equal protection clause).

Buy it and bring it home.



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Still, if it worries him, have him ship it to your FFL. Maybe you can split the cost.

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Originally Posted by RatherBHuntin
I live near the border of a neighboring state. An individual (non FFL) in the next state has a shotgun I would like to buy. He won't ship it. How can I complete this transaction? Can I meet him at an ffl in his state and have the ffl do the transfer to me (a non resident of that state) ??? Thanks for any input.


Yes ,you can use a FFL in another State for a long Gun transfer as long as you do it face to face.


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Originally Posted by WyColoCowboy
It's a violation of both the second and 14th amendments. A federal judge recently ruled that interstate FFL requirement on interstate firearm transactions are unconstitutional.

If I am legally eligible to purchase a firearm, according to the ruling, I should be able to do that in all 50 states. (Equal protection clause).

Buy it and bring it home.



Dang, but you're on a roll today. Wrong again. The court ruling only struck down the requirement to have a handgun, bought in another state, to be picked up at an FFL in the buyer's own state. So all it did is to authorize you to buy a longgun OR handgun directly from an FFL in another state. It did nothing to change the law making it illegal to buy across state lines from individuals.

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