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John: Great article on the 7x57 in the current issue of "Guns". And thanks for all the reloading data. This one is a keeper. You realize, though, that you'll never get Ingwe to stoke the Ingwe Special with anything but 175s. At least that's what he claims.  Mike
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Glad you liked the column!
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MD, I was drawn for a spring bear permit here in NE WA and will use your 2800 fps and a 140 NPT in my old FN HVA 7x57 (24" Shelin). As far as camo goes I'll probably wear a Tiger stripe bra as a tip of the hat to Col. Corbett, after all they are on sale @ Vicki's Secret this week.-Muddy
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the 7x57 is one of my favorite calibers.I have three,a push feed m70 fwt.,a Brno21h and a cz american.The cz has a throat deeper than the ivory snow girl and shoots a 154 horn 75fps slower than a ruger that had with two inches less barrel than the cz.
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The cz has a throat deeper than the ivory snow girl That's funny right there. 
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the 7x57 is one of my favorite calibers.I have three,a push feed m70 fwt.,a Brno21h and a cz american.The cz has a throat deeper than the ivory snow girl and shoots a 154 horn 75fps slower than a ruger that had with two inches less barrel than the cz. I seat a 160 gr Nosler Partition out to 3.330" in my CZ. ![[Linked Image]](http://i1243.photobucket.com/albums/gg546/elkhunterinnm/IMG_0421.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](http://i1243.photobucket.com/albums/gg546/elkhunterinnm/IMG_0423.jpg)
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Magnificent 7x57 is the correct description!
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Great info, John. Never owned a 7x57. It appears in bullets of 140gr and under it's about the same as my/any 7-08. Looking at your data it appears that it'll do a little better with the heavy bullets than the 7-08? It this generally a true statement?
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In my experience, not really. But as the article stated, there are too many variables in 7x57 throat and magazine length to be absolutely positive about exactly what any given rifle will do.
7-08's are far more consistent, due to being a modern cartridge with firm specifications, designed for 2.8" magazine.
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7-08's are far more consistent, due to being a modern cartridge with firm specifications, designed for 2.8" magazine. BLASPHEMY!!!! LOL. Wait til Ingwe comes along... The 7-08 is most certainly easier to deal with due to factory ammo availability and consistency, but it didn't kill 1,000 elephants. So it's no fun.... 
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That 1000 elephant thing is definitely a dividing line. Though I'm not sure of what!
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Bet a 7mm-08 wouldn't shoot like the 77 Ruger tanger that Dennis Hall used in this piece...  That throat must have been pretty long...  And, ole Dennis wan't bashful about stoking those cases...  I'm sure he was getting serious "Fire pressure", way out of SAAMI territory...  DF http://www.riflemagazine.com/magazine/PDF/hl66partial.pdf
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That 1000 elephant thing is definitely a dividing line. Though I'm not sure of what! I always thought what it really told us was just how strong Bell's nerves were. Growing up in Victorian Scotland with a middle name like Dalrymple might have developed that nerve a bit. Or maybe he was the original stunt shooter.
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That 1000 elephant thing is definitely a dividing line. Though I'm not sure of what! I always thought what it really told us was just how strong Bell's nerves were. Growing up in Victorian Scotland with a middle name like Dalrymple might have developed that nerve a bit. Or maybe he was the original stunt shooter. I think it shows how much gin Bell drank.
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"An archer sees how far he can be from a target and still hit it, a bowhunter sees how close he can get before he shoots." It is certainly easy to use that same line of thinking with firearms. -- Unknown
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Regardless of that, everyone who hunts Africa drinks gin. Period. I read that in a Capstick book...so it much be true.
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