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Originally Posted by AussieGunWriter
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That's a pretty strange response to a simple question.
What bullet are you interested in shooting in your .458?


Thanks for the offer.

For me light bullets of interest in a 458WM include:

Woodleigh 400gr PP
Hornady 350gr RN & FP
Barnes 350gr TSX

Any loading info you can share would be appreciated.


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Try RL 7 with the 350 Hornadies or Speer. I don't have my load notes handy and they were for the 458 lott but loaded to 458 win mag velocities. I was shooting a hair over moa using iron sights and original military triggers (Enfield and Mauser) Should be no problem getting MOA or better with a scope and decent trigger.

And my Lott's had long throats, I tried long loaded the 450 X bullet and could never touch the lands, and that's a long bullet.

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Originally Posted by JFE
Originally Posted by AussieGunWriter
Originally Posted by JFE
That's a pretty strange response to a simple question.
What bullet are you interested in shooting in your .458?


Thanks for the offer.

For me light bullets of interest in a 458WM include:

Woodleigh 400gr PP
Hornady 350gr RN & FP
Barnes 350gr TSX

Any loading info you can share would be appreciated.



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My best loads were both using 74gn of either H 322 for 2336fps or H 4198 for 2454fps. Both shot under MOA.

Won't consider a 350gn round nose but have used the 350gn TSX Barnes over 76gn of H 322 for 2434fps, 78gn of AA 2230 for 2424fps, 78gn of H 4198 for 2582fps with single digit shot to shot variation.

If you want mild shooting loads then 75gn of either AA 2230 or H 4198 work well also.

Please note that H 4198 has been slowed down since Hodgdon started marketing it. My loads fro 25 years back using the AR original Mulwex versions used up to 10 grains less so you need to work up from around 10% lower charges.
Hope this helps.

John


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What is the max on trail boss for a 458wm?

I mean I guess you could fill the case to the capacity and it still wouldn't be bad. Right?

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John - thanks for the info and caution over burning rate change for H4198.

Dr.D - Trailboss is really suitable for loads developing 800-1200 fps. There is data on the Hodgdon site for Trailboss in the 458WM. Trailboss is a powder you do not compress. Despite it's bulk it is a fast burning powder.

You have another powder available in the USA that is bulky and a lot slower burning than Trailboss and this makes it suitable for higher velocities. With this one you can develop hot 45/70 type loads for your 458. Trailboss is around the same burning rate as Red Dot whereas AA5744 has a burn rate similar to 4198, which makes it better suited to higher velocity reduced loads. AA have load data for the 458WM on their site. Unfortunately it's a powder we don't have available here.

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The Trailboss rules are:
- no compression
- minimum of 70% of a full load under a seated bullet.

I use 20gns behind a 405gn cast projectile which is almost no air space left - and is subsonic at around 1000fps.


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