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They just added that to their website. It wasn't there a few weeks ago. The ones they sent me were .690-.705 at 25". Several other people have told me they had the same problem so I'm sure that's why they have a new policy now.

When I ordered they "clearly said" they could duplicate the ones I sent them or I wouldn't have ordered 27 of them. .015" maybe acceptable but .050"isn't. Even McMillan has called them on behalf of other customers because their barrels wouldn't fit a McMillan rem inlet.

They've redid their contours again since I sent mine back and they are closer but don't expect any freefloat in a rem channel.

Bb

I have a Bart magnum sporter on my 6 creed. I should have it back hopefully by saturday. I will mic the muzzle when I get it and let you know. I got mine less than a year ago.

I just called them when I ordered and told them what I wanted, and they made it.

That being said, I still think you could sell some. Love the contour of mine. What caliber and twists did you get?

https://web.archive.org/web/20150204030737/http://bartleinbarrels.com/contours.htm

You can see their contour page as of Feb. 4th this year did not include anything about rem sporters or their policy.

Maybe if nothing else at least now they are much closer on contours and have a policy going forward so people know up front.

As I said I tried to sell the ones they sent me and no one that saw one would take it. Their 2nd sample blank was much closer but still .040-.050 thicker than any of my take offs through the middle. I could force the sample down into one of my rem stocks that had the speed bumps removed but it was tight. It didn't fit into a few other stocks I had.

I'm sure your 6 creedmoor will shoot great, that's what I had planned for one I had ordered. Did you go .236" or .237 bore? I had .224 8 twists, .243 8 twists, 6.5mm 8 and 8.5 twists, 7mm 8.5 twists, and .308 10 twists on order. Wish it could have worked out for me and hope it does for you.

Bb

I am just thinking out loud, but if they do say that the barrel may vary in size, then that covers them. But what if you send a barrel to have it duplicated, wouldn't that be what you expected?

If any company agrees to make it to your dimensions, and fails to do so, would it be the customers fault?

If I were them I'd make a factory contour on the small side of maker discrepancies and be good period.
How many other barrel makers has McMillan had to call over factory contours, I'd like to know.
Shoot, these tolerances are in feet to a barrel maker. You would think they would be able to figure out the obvious.

I'm surprised that any barrel maker that offers to duplicate a barrel can't get it done.

I agree with FVA statement here
Shoot, these tolerances are in feet to a barrel maker.

My barrel mics .660"

I agree you deserve and are justified in expecting more. I don't understand how they couldn't match the contour. Could there be an issue with their tooling? Either way, it doesn't sound like they want your business and it would have been decent of the to inform you of this back when you placed the order. There's nothing worse than getting the run around. Thank goodness you paid with a CC.

Still waiting for a refund. They said they'd refund if a few weeks back. I finally got them on the phone last week and they said they were going to mail a check that day instead. Hopefully it's in the mail because I just want to move on.

DC223 sounds like your contour is more in line with what I was hoping for. A friend here just built a 6 creedmoor this weekend and the first few loads were .3 and under. He's running 87 grainers and I'm trying to get him back out with 105's. What freebore did you run on your reamer? I'm thinking about trying one soon and I'm guessing .10-.15 freebore might be where I'd want to be for 105's.

I like the creedmoor case design and wouldn't even mind trying a 7 creedmoor some day too.

Bb

Did you get your check back yet?

one of the local guys bought a similar number of McGowan barrels. he has been very happy with the results from what I heard him tell me when I bought a few off him. if you are going to spin it down to rem sporter, a smaller barrel maker may treat you right and if there is any less accuracy, it won't be much. The discount price is well under half of any of the big B's.....just thinking out loud. FWIW, he is running 16 weeks on his orders.

Wow, it sounds like you have done everything imaginable to make it work. I looked at the GAP website and if I remember correctly, they use a #3 and they say .670 at the muzzle - so it doesn't sound all that different from what you were asking for.

Bummer......